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Old Jun 21st, 2004, 08:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is drifting???

what is drifting?????
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Old Jun 21st, 2004, 08:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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what about it don't you understand.
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Old Jun 21st, 2004, 10:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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'drifting' is a japanese based 'sport' where cars slide around a curve.
That's it.

of course powerslides are nothing new in any country. Neither is fishtailing at a corner or messing around in snow, dirt, gravel, or ice. FWD, RWD, and AWD cars can 'drift' although a rwd is powersliding and a fwd car is just gliding, whereas AWD gets a 4-wheel drift. Also it can be judged for style, or be an actual race where the cars have to get from A to B and if they slide in the middle its a drift.
They are started by either: inertia, handbrakeing the rear tires, overpowering the rear tires, popping the clutch to break the tires.

Of course this just breaks the surface and everyones definition is different. This is probably why it isn't a real motorsport any more than gymnastics is an olympic event. One is based on time/distance, and the other is based on style. Both require skill.

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Old Jun 24th, 2004, 08:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what is drifting?????
In my state of Australia (NSW) in the last few years, there has been a law against "Sustained loss of traction" which drifting would fall square into the lap of

The law was designed to impound cars of people doing burnouts, but I think the cops would be more than willing to expand the use to street drifters.

Basically it's all about making the car work sideways and sliding, and as other people have pointed out, just getting a bit of power or trailing-throttle oversteer doesn't really qualify. It's more about initiating a slide and controlling the car around the corners in a slide, or even in a straight line. At the more advanced levels the slide is initiated well before the corner, and the top pro's can do all this shit at speeds upto 180km/h or 110mph.

Competition is judged on style rather than timing, although a faster run (all else being equal) is of course more stylish. It's common in competition to drift in tandem with another car, and it's also common to swap paint with each other so don't get into that if you can't afford the repairs.

Currently I'm getting myself comfortable with controlling a power slide and terminating that slide gracefully instead of banging out of it with a wild and hard-to-manage snap of traction. I'm getting happy with my skills so the next step for me would be to initiate the slide on corner entry so that the slide does the slowing and then put on the power to exit. For this I need to find a really large, wide open space with no solid or fleshy objects to hit.

So do I qualify as a drifter? No way, not yet. I think you'd probably be able to call yourself a novice drifter once you can reliably initiate an entry slide and maybe connect two corners together. That's just a hint about qualifications...

All aussies interested in Drift should get the current issue of SPEED magazine - it's got a 25 page intro into the subject.
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Old Jun 26th, 2004, 12:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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is it me or have we had this conversation like 100 times? and each time everyone has their own take on it. not saying they're wrong or anything hell even I'm trying to teach myself currently
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Old Jun 26th, 2004, 06:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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basically wat its all about is going into a corner (not necessarily) going sideways and maintaining ur speed at the same time, w/out oversteering or understeer
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what is drifting?????
it's when you take a FWD car such as honda civic, come into a corner really fast..like 80mph.. and pull the ebrake. and then you oversteer and crash into a light pole

drifting is whenyou control a(n) RWD/AWD vehicle around a corner with minimal traction. you "drift" around the corner. there are lots of different techniques.. heel-toe-downshift + pop clutch seems to be used the most
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heel and toe isnt really a designated drift technique, its just a technique meant to keep the rpm;s up while braking into a corner, so you can hold power through-out the corner without first having to match revs and then resort to braking(which would waste time) , thats why it would be good for both racing or drifting
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i knew that but thanks for clearing that up

brake + ( turn into corner + heel toe + pop clutch ) + countersteer = drift
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Old Jun 28th, 2004, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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i used to be a drifter. i wanderd from town to town doing various odd jobs.

drifting is a controlled loss of traction to the rear wheels of an AWD or RWD car. if you loose traction at the front wheels then you would be sliding, but the front wheels on a drift car retain what little traction they can to remain in the " drift". if you were sliding that would mean you were completely out of control
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i cannot believe you just asked that question
ummm he didnt really JUST ask the question... this thread was started 9 months ago and the last reply was in late july...
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Old Oct 11th, 2004, 05:27 PM   #15 (permalink)
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drifting is when you lose control of your car, regain it, and look cool while doing it.


ex: omg man you almost killed us in the rain on that turn!!! "naw man, that's drifting "
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