Please keep ALL FF sliding and oversteer in this thread. Use this thread to discuss techniques and problems. This is not a bragging/mAdD fwd "drifting" story thread!
This thread is lonely so I'll post in it hehehe...
In a turn when you pull the e brake, how do you keep the car going sideways for as long as possible??? Do you just enter at a high speed and let the speed carry you sideways??
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tire pressure is important if you want back end action. making the rear tire pressure a bit higher 5lbs or so makes the rear tires have a little bit less grip, which will really make the back end loose. While you're at it, get used to checking tire pressure in general. If i wanted to make my b11 really loose in the rear i'd use 25 lbs front 30 lbs rear. your experience may vary.
i slide, just because regular driving is boring. but its not like i try to act like im a drifter. but definetly tire pressure is important, along with timing. what helped me the most was learing how my car handled before i tried ass dragging. whenever i go out for some sliding, i use 30 lbs ft. , and 28 rear
I like "drifting" my B14 Sentra GXE on dirt roads by puling the E-Brake to do a controlled slide through a corner, but that's really more of a rally thing than drifting.
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I met these dudes the other night that came down from another town well we have a garage here and we have a 92 240,95 civic,93 celica gts, and a mazda mx-6 well these guys were driving a honda prelude they got out and came in right when they walked in the said basically but not in these words how the 240sx was the best car we have simply because it was the only drift car i was just wondering how stupid these guys were to talk crap when they were driving a front wheel drive car i mean wuts up with that? And also my buddy seems to think u can drift a civic just as easy and good as my 240sx what do u guys think?
It's not what we think, its all about this thread. Please read it before posting things like that Damien. Next time, a post like that will be moved or deleted. FWD is not true drifting, period.
tire pressure is important if you want back end action. making the rear tire pressure a bit higher 5lbs or so makes the rear tires have a little bit less grip, which will really make the back end loose. While you're at it, get used to checking tire pressure in general. If i wanted to make my b11 really loose in the rear i'd use 25 lbs front 30 lbs rear. your experience may vary.
Increasing rear tire pressure increase rear grip and reduces oversteer unless you put a crapload of tire pressure in, like over 40 psi or even 50 psi.
Going 25 front and 30 rear just incresed your understeer.
Mike
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Increasing rear tire pressure increase rear grip and reduces oversteer unless you put a crapload of tire pressure in, like over 40 psi or even 50 psi.
Going 25 front and 30 rear just incresed your understeer.
Mike
for my sloppy b11 it only takes about about 30 lbs in the rear to get the rear end to want to kick out. might be my crappy tires. if i put 40 or 50 lbs it would be really wanting to have the rear end kick out.
I'm going to ignore the comments on the "FF drifting is not real drifting" and say something about how drift on an FF car from my own experience.
First off, in order to drift successfully in an FF car, you need a really wet surface. So if you're in the snow or rainy region, count yourself lucky.
The amount of time you hold the e-brake depends on how tight the corner is. You have to be at the correct speed and have enter the corner at the right angle to be able to execute the drift correctly.
As you turn into the corner, put your foot on the clutch and quickly pull the e-brake and let the tail-end slide. Let the foot off the clutch a little after you've begun drifting. In order to maintain the slide, give short blips to the throttle to keep the car in a rev range that will give you the right amount of torque. Start countersteering a little before approaching the corner exit.
Because you're in an FF car, you need to remember that grippy tires will not help you drift, so make sure you get really slippery tires and slap them on. Having power going to the front tires makes it difficult for FF cars to drift, so getting it right will take some time. The timing of the drift procedures depends on what car you have and what kind of handicaps it has by default. The drift procedure I prescribed is from my experiences on a '93 Toyota Corolla Station Wagon. YMMV.
Personally, I do this every winter, and its a lot of fun. However, I don't like the whole drifting scene that is spreading in the United States these days, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate it. If you are serious about drifting, I would recommend buying a RWD car, because its just that much easier if you begin with the "right"-wheel-drive. Another good thing would be that you buy/download/borrow the "Drift Bible" DVD. Tsuchiya did a good job with explaining how to drift, what to expect when drifting with certain kinds of cars, and what maintanence you should do to a car if you are to drift it every so often.
This is probably the one and only time I will ever talk about drifting. So there you have it.
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