okay okay, all you talkers and holes, get a life. sure it is said that FWD cars are not made for drifting, but that is a complete lie. i bet that my car can drift as long as any RWD car, or even longer. the trick isnt with the tire pressure, but with the tires. what i do when i go to the tracks to drift, i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip. that is why for the rear, i put on mickie thompson drag slicks. these tires have almost no grip, so they basically will slide as long as you want.
You probably have never been to a real drift event, no FWD car can compete and have a hope to win.
Sure you can one to slide but not a long sustainable drift. If you go to irwindale, the RWD cars drift all the way around the oval, a FWD car would not do that.
I can drift my FWD race car but only to about mid to late turn, then the accelleration out of the turn makes it stop drifting.
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okay okay, all you talkers and holes, get a life. sure it is said that FWD cars are not made for drifting, but that is a complete lie. i bet that my car can drift as long as any RWD car, or even longer. the trick isnt with the tire pressure, but with the tires. what i do when i go to the tracks to drift, i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip. that is why for the rear, i put on mickie thompson drag slicks. these tires have almost no grip, so they basically will slide as long as you want.
All right Ill bet money then that you cant. You obviously dont understand simple physics, Hot Rod Kid completely explained the reasons why not yet you still arque, especially with people who know more about this than you. And if you still wnat to argue then post up a vid of you drifting better that D1..
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okay okay, all you talkers and holes, get a life. sure it is said that FWD cars are not made for drifting, but that is a complete lie. i bet that my car can drift as long as any RWD car, or even longer. the trick isnt with the tire pressure, but with the tires. what i do when i go to the tracks to drift, i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip. that is why for the rear, i put on mickie thompson drag slicks. these tires have almost no grip, so they basically will slide as long as you want.
ITS NOT DRIFTING! a drift is a controld power slide to drift YOU HAVE TO BE SPINNING YOUR REAR TIRES! saying you can drift a fwd car is like saying you can run a race without legs! yes you may beable to win (in a wheel chair) but you are useing completly differant gear! what you are doing is sliding your rear tires via momentum or e-brake. please stop being a douche (calling us liers and ass holes) and get a life! YOU CANT DRIFT A FWD CAR EVER, NEVER WILL, NEVER CAN, WILL NEVER BEABLE TO! you have now power going to the rear wheels there fore its not a drift it is simply a powerslide
would you entre a drag car in an auto-x race? NO
would you entre an auto-x car in a top fuel race? NO
would you entre a top fuel car in a boat race? NO all of these things have their place and fwd does not have any place in drifting, go and read any "directions" on how to drift some where in there will be instructions that you need to over power the rear tires, pop the clutch, rotate the car. can you over power you rear tires? please tell me you can
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i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip.
the sign of a ricer! that is one of the most untrue statements i have EVER read on this site! if you knew what you were talking about you would know that real drifters use some of the stickiest tires they can so they can control the drift better. also smaller wheels would work far better. the reason you needtires with no grip on the rear is because YOU HAVE FWD! do i need to say that again?
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If any of you have watched "Drift Bible" you would see that there are a couple a different drifting methods and most drifters use a combination of these methods strung together in competitions. The thing to note is that one of the beginner methods is to use the e-brake, as noted in drift bible it is a begginer method and for that matter it is the recomemded method to learn how to start your drifts. It is easier to drift a RWD car but you can "DRIFT" a FWD car, the type of drift is the question not the ability to do so.
I live in Jamaica where we have lots of long winding roads, perfect for drifting. The problem is that we only really have FF cars out here, so the better drivers have had to improvise. If you take the corners too fast your car will understeer and that usually ends in you running into a mountain or off a cliff. I dont think of what i/we do as drifting, it more has to do with controlling oversteer, but it you really cant call it anything else.
My "DRIFTING" technique.
1) Aproach the turn faster than you need to, like the bottom of fourth when you should be mid way through third.
2) Heel and toe downshift right at the entrance of the turn to get the weight of the car transferred to the front of the vehicle.
3) Turn hard into the corner and pull the handbrake quickly to break the rear of the car loose.
4) If you executed the previous steps correctly all four wheels should be sliding, i.e. the high speed and the hard turn in should cause the front to break loose and the e-brake will cause the rear to break loose. At this point you should be well in the corner so all you have to do is counter steer and modulate the clutch and gas to get teh car pointed the right way to exit the turn.
if the turn is a long sweeping one you can get on teh car as hard as you need to and when you feel the front start to slide just work the e-brake a little to make the back slide and keep things under controll.
You wont win any drifting competitions with the technique but it definately looks cool as hell ... this works great for all you B14/N15 owners out there.
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4) If you executed the previous steps correctly all four wheels should be sliding, i.e. the high speed and the hard turn in should cause the front to break loose and the e-brake will cause the rear to break loose. At this point you should be well in the corner so all you have to do is counter steer and modulate the clutch and gas to get teh car pointed the right way to exit the turn.
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sounds like a great and perfect powerslide !
p.s. thanks for not demanding that your drift but you imitate drifting. i mean the sport of drifting is for rwd .
You know what, I won't even argue, because, before drifting was popular in the US, the Americans said out right that the japanese were power sliding like idiots, thinking it was a ligitimate sport. I read that in a performance magazine. Now that they understand it, they finally call it drifting. The fact is, even on japanese sites, they say FWD cars can drift. They explicitly say that RWD is best for it, because with a RWD car you can maintain drifts longer, and do consecutive drifts without losing momentum, where as FWD lose their momentum after 2.5 turns.
I agree with the dude above
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it's true. my friend went "drifting" in his civic and i took my 300ZX turbo, and he kept gaining traction but i kept going through multiple turns. he had to speed up and pull the e-brake while i just used heel-toe and quick turns of the steering wheel.
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okay okay, all you talkers and holes, get a life. sure it is said that FWD cars are not made for drifting, but that is a complete lie. i bet that my car can drift as long as any RWD car, or even longer. the trick isnt with the tire pressure, but with the tires. what i do when i go to the tracks to drift, i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip. that is why for the rear, i put on mickie thompson drag slicks. these tires have almost no grip, so they basically will slide as long as you want.
dude, shut up. Read this entire thread, and shut up.
BWT... i just downloaded some video's off the net of drifting competitions in japan and i see FF cars .... where did you guys get it that FF's cant enter drifting competitions???
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sure! they can enter into any amateur drifting comp it wants! but when they get into the real deal (i.e. D1) they are not allowed only the rwd (pure breads if you will) enter. or if fwd can enter they don't because they know they don't stand a chance. the laws of physics wont allow a fwd car to carry a power slide down a long strait, simple as that.
sure! they can enter into any amateur drifting comp it wants! but when they get into the real deal (i.e. D1) they are not allowed only the rwd (pure breads if you will) enter. or if fwd can enter they don't because they know they don't stand a chance. the laws of physics wont allow a fwd car to carry a power slide down a long strait, simple as that.
Its not that FF cars are not allowed in D1, they would not be able to drift well enough to qualify for D1.
Sliding a FF car sideways is not competitive drifting, especialy now at the level that the sport has progressed to.
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FF cars do not drift like RWD cars can. The laws of Physics wont allow it. Yes FF cars can slide, but not drift.
FF= momentum drift- where the back end slides out due to excess speed when entering a turn- usually every jumpy and rough. Can be combined with hand braking
FR= real drifting- where a combination of weight shift, braking, and power combine to smoothly transfer to oversteer. Also, steering input can be used to initiate a drift.
** these definitions apply only to tarmac, FF cars can drift on gravel and snow**
* ^^ dont go and try this, im not endorsing it*
you can drift a civic. I had a buddy with an 89 civic dx. The tires that were on the rear of the car were completly slick from sliding. He just adjusted the e-brake to engage sooner, like 4-5 clicks. He just drove the poo out of it in first gear and pulled the rear of the car around. Funny as hell, and noisy. He didn't care about the condition of the car, so if you dont care about yours, it can do circles.
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holes, get a life. sure it is said that FWD cars are not made for drifting, but that is a complete lie. i bet that my car can drift as long as any RWD car, or even longer. the trick isnt with the tire pressure, but with the tires. what i do when i go to the tracks to drift, i will put on my 17inch rims with falken tires, any tire with not to much grip works, but then that is not what really counts. ot really drift the car you need the rear end to slide, and to do this, you need a rear tire with basically no grip. that is why for the rear, i put on mickie thompson drag slicks. these tires have almost no grip, so they basically will slide as long as you want. 
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