Anyone done this? (on a GA)
Any reccomendations?
Any tips?
I bought a kit last week and am almost finished putting it in. Its for the SR motor, so i have to use 'best judgement' on where to put which size hoses and how.
THe throttle cables are a pain in theass, and the kit isn't set up for the emissions thing, I have to buy some extra to fit it.
I remember that story,
It was michael young.
And, no it mentions nothing of the install. Just that it can be installed. No tips or tricks or reccomended places.
I wanted to know which hoses can be replaces completely and which should be merely covered by slitting some hose and overlaying it.
I did learn this:
For the gas/cruise - from the factory there is black hose already covering a sheath which covers the cable. What you have to do is slit off the original hose, and then slit the new hose and cover it back up. Otherwise it won't fit properly, and the clips which hold the cable in its circle pattern around the VC won't work.
My big concern is that this kit doesn't provide yo with hose for the emissions doohickey thta always interferes with the strut bar. I guess thats the starter in starter kit. I have to measure and order more hose, but I'll do a different color.
Aside from the SR20 pics on hose techniqies site and the same ones at nissanperfmag this is the only pic of a GA with the kit (until mine, buahaha...not).
Seth
P.S. I see they messed with the emissions thig but they got a real sharp bend I wonder if there is an inner sleve so that the tube doesn't collapse. (Oh yeah, my color is deep blue, and I may get some silver to go with it).
I was able to buy some hose techniques hose from nopi.com for my throttle cable. You may need to look up the sizes, but I think it's a bit cheaper on nopi.com and you can custom order how much you want.
ok,
I see Nostradamus (board member) has some hoses in his engine bay. It isn't complete, but its a start. They are the same as in the pic above (the color I mean).
Yea I baught a hose kit with various sizes at pepboys for twenty bucks. I used every bit of that kit too. The hoses I got were pretty thin walled, so the brake booster hose was all pinched and I had to replace it back to stock. The only bad thing about that kit is I did everything that would fit in thoes sizes. Now I need bigger hose to finish it off. I also need the blue spark plug wires.
So when are you gonna be finished with yours? Wanna see some pics soon.
Last edited by Nostrodomas : May 15th, 2003 at 08:42 PM.
Well,
Its a time problem. It takes a few hours to install the hose techniqes kit. You have to first figure out which hoses are replaceable by the kit or replaceable at all. Then you have to figure out how much you need, so you know how much to cut of each hose that way you aren't left short. Then you have to actually remove the hoses and replace them, while keeping everyting neat. (The coolant hose was not eactly 'neat').
Since it can't be done in 5 minute sessions (although 30 minute sessions are fine, thats how I've been doing it).
Right now I've done the cables and the coolant hose.
The cables were done with their letter envelope opener. You use it to slit the hose along its natural curve. Its really hard since the slitter is usually bigger than the hose itself.
Cutting the hose is too easy. They give you a cigar cutter and you can cut your fingers off with that thing. The slightest pressure cuts the hose.
Once you slit off the old hose you just slide on lengths of the new hose that are equal to the other hoses. For the cables, you can use one long hose, but then you won't be able to use the cable supports. So its best to use two hoses for the throttle and one for the cruise.
Once you take off the old coolant hose, just slide on the new one. The hard part is getting off the OEM clips that hold the hose to the bottle.
I can't reach the dip stick holder so I probably won't do that.
All I have left is the prop rod, the emissions thing, the tiny hoses in back and the windshield washer hose. I can't do them all with the supplied starter kit, however i do have to measure how much more I'll need. It sucks that i can't get it in canada (I can but its like $20 for shipping, and then duty), and that they only shop in excess of 10 feet so thats at least $14 per size.
Finally I'll cover assorted metal tubes that are floating around. THe tiny ones anyway.
The rest of the wires in the bay are covered in loom. I could use hose, but I'd rather use colored loom.
the hose techniques kit comes with enough hose to do everything in that pic u posted seth? i was going to buy the kit awhile back but i didnt bc i didnt know how much stuff i could cover/replace. post pics when ur done, i would love to see it.
I used all silver on my car. This picture is from HoseTechniques web site. It comes with all the hose except for the spark plug wires. You will need an additional 6ft to do your spark plug wires. You have to slit the silicone hose and put it over the orginal spark plug wires.
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Last edited by motivational1 : May 16th, 2003 at 11:19 AM.
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Right,
THis pic I printed from their website along with another to use as a guide. I didn't go for the spark plug wires since I'm not sure what I'm doing with my current wires.
However your engine bay is missing the emissions stuff, which safe to say is half the hoses in the bay.
Give me the weekend to finish and I"ll show you what I'm talking about.
I don't remeber what size hose is used for the spark plug wires. Hose Techniques will know. I am not missing any of the emission stuff. My car is a 95 California model. You have a later model like Mike Youngs.
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Motivational Engineering www.Motivational.net
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I understand that it isn't 'missing' you never had it in the first place.
Anyway, I had an hour free so I put 90% of the hose I had on.
I ended up using the 10mm on the dipstick since it slides on easily.
I used some rim clener as a lubricant for my prop rod so I could slide down that 8mm hose (same as on the emissions stuff).
I replaced washer hose with the 4mm hose but only ran to the coner of the bay and used an attachment to connect the new hose to the old.
This way i didn't have to run hose through the firewall.
For spark plug: I believe the hose is 6-8mm depending on the type of wires you have.
Finally I did the little hoses behind the TB. I did almost all of them. They were a major pain in the butt.
First i had to remove the little assemblies so I could work. Then one at a time (so I could remember the order), I replaceed each 3 inch segment.
Then I put it back. Needless to say the old hoses didn't want to come off, so I had to slit them near the ends so they could comeoff.
They were really baked on.
In the end I decided to go for either new NGK blue wires
(however they won't fit in the wire guides that come attached to the VC and are $100+)
or get silver wire to cover the existing wires, or rather get new OEM ones too.
Thats like $15 in hose and I have to cut them in pieces to allow the wires to use the guides.
Then I need 8mm silver to replace the emissions stuff. Thats also $13.50 in hoise since thats the minumum order.
Finally I need some tiny hose (although I may have some left.)
to just slice and cover the three lines by the drivers side
firewall to cover up.
Now I just have to clean the bay, and the new hose.
I hate my heat shield. I can't get it off!
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