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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 08:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Discoloring and paint fade

I have a 94 hb and in two places on the front, the paint is fading, just wondered what causes this and if it can be helped or stopped. Also my hood has some discoloration, which is almost like dirt which is in the paint job? Not really sure what it is or how or anything about it. Is it possible that a wax job was done over a not so clean hood and that is the source of the discoloring? Thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 09:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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this is mostlikely the clear coat flaking off im not really sure but what u should do is take it to a paint shop or auto body repair and ask them A. if they can use a buffer and polishing compound to restor the paint or B. if it will have to be repainted. i dont know the extent of the paint damage but i would thing it could be polished out
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Old Sep 29th, 2004, 09:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you know if the car was ever crashed and those parts needed to be replaced? If they only have a 1 stage paint job and the others are 3 stage coats, then that can explain it. Also if that area was always in the sun. If it is oxidation you can restore a lot of it if you can rotary buff.
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Old Sep 30th, 2004, 08:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you know if the car was ever crashed and those parts needed to be replaced? If they only have a 1 stage paint job and the others are 3 stage coats, then that can explain it. Also if that area was always in the sun. If it is oxidation you can restore a lot of it if you can rotary buff.
That is what it sounds like oxidation. Should be able to get it polished.
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Old Oct 8th, 2004, 09:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That is what it sounds like oxidation. Should be able to get it polished.
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The fading happened because of Sun. I can post pictures if needed. Should I buy a polishing compound and do it myself. What brand do you advise? did anybody solved this problem
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Old Oct 8th, 2004, 10:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Post pictures so we can see what exactly is happeneing
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Likely the whole front will have to be repainted. Sounds like clearcoat getting thin and then the paint underneath coming up. It can be done as a spot job, but it will likely never look quite right, and doubtful it'll last more than a couple years. It was probably painted before and done improperly or cheaply.......
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Old Oct 9th, 2004, 03:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Similar question;

The fading happened because of Sun. I can post pictures if needed. Should I buy a polishing compound and do it myself. What brand do you advise? did anybody solved this problem
Depends on how bad. Show pics. Definately get someone else to do it unless you are good at rotary buffing.
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Old Oct 9th, 2004, 04:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Depends on how bad. Show pics. Definately get someone else to do it unless you are good at rotary buffing.
I will post pictures by tomorrow. I am at school today. I dont have my Digicam with me.
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I took pictures but I didnt know that I cant post pictures with regular membership. Sorry but I am not gonna be able to post pictures. By the way, in another forum, they adviced me to use rubbing compond then polish then wax. A guy recently got rid of his color fading in his 94 corolla by this method. I will try this method, I will post here if it works so that I can help others
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Old Oct 10th, 2004, 04:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I took pictures but I didnt know that I cant post pictures with regular membership. Sorry but I am not gonna be able to post pictures. By the way, in another forum, they adviced me to use rubbing compond then polish then wax. A guy recently got rid of his color fading in his 94 corolla by this method. I will try this method, I will post here if it works so that I can help others
you can host pics on car domain or photobucket. Hand will not be as effective as mechanical methods.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004, 07:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
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you can host pics on car domain or photobucket. Hand will not be as effective as mechanical methods.
This is going to sound dumb, but is a 'rotary' method that bushy thing you can buy for your drill or air compressor? All you have to do is just let it spin and rub your car with it, right? (After the car is clean and everything....)
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This is going to sound dumb, but is a 'rotary' method that bushy thing you can buy for your drill or air compressor? All you have to do is just let it spin and rub your car with it, right? (After the car is clean and everything....)
Some are air powered and some are electric. They take a high level of skill to use. Just letting it spin and rubbing it will probably destroy your paint. Depeneding on the type of paint you are working and what you are trying to do determines how much pressure you will use and how high you run the RPMs. Running them too high on clear coat paint or too much pressure will definately make swirl marks and possibly burn your paint. If you havent worked a rotary before, and orbital buffer is the way to go. If you need compounding that an orbital cannot accomplish, then by all means learn about working a rotary first or get someone with experience to do it. It is one the best but at the same time the most dangerous detailing tool. Only a rotary buffer can make swiril marks and only a rotary buffer can remove them.
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This is going to sound dumb, but is a 'rotary' method that bushy thing you can buy for your drill or air compressor? All you have to do is just let it spin and rub your car with it, right? (After the car is clean and everything....)
if you dont have extreme confidence in your buffing skills, you need to get it professionally done, buffing is an art, and you can KILL your paint in a very short time...
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if you dont have extreme confidence in your buffing skills, you need to get it professionally done, buffing is an art, and you can KILL your paint in a very short time...
I took it to a local car wash and they said that the paint is beyond repair. They waxed the heck out of it anyway, but it didn't help. I don't think they used the rotary thing that takes out swirls though. I'll try and attach a picture of the roof later. The hood is starting to do the same thing too.
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