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Old Dec 2nd, 2004, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How does a Sentra SE-R VSpec compare to...

I'm going to be buying a car this Februrary, and I'm torn between a Sentra and a Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart. Both of their times are almost identical (0-60, 1/4 Mile, etc.), so that doesn't help any. If someone here has test driven a Lancer before they purchased a Sentra, could you give me any insight as to why you chose the Sentra over the Lancer; or could anyone else give their impressions on how reliable/the performance of their SE-R VSpec? Thanks, and I appreciate any responses.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm going to be buying a car this Februrary, and I'm torn between a Sentra and a Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart. Both of their times are almost identical (0-60, 1/4 Mile, etc.), so that doesn't help any. If someone here has test driven a Lancer before they purchased a Sentra, could you give me any insight as to why you chose the Sentra over the Lancer; or could anyone else give their impressions on how reliable/the performance of their SE-R VSpec? Thanks, and I appreciate any responses.
There was a write up on the both. Bascily the Spec V can out corner the lancer, BUT the lancer comes with all weather tires compared to z rated summer tires and 17" rims that the Spec V has. As far as I know, mitsu still uses timming belts and the dealer charges out the arse to replace them. Spec V has a timming chain.

Personaly, I would walk away from both, but if you are choosing between the two, go with the spec v. If you need to drive in the snow, buy different tires or you will wreck your car.
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Old Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I was trying to choose between the both of them. I went with the Spec V because...I believe that the Spec will out perform the Ralliart. I liked the front end better as well
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Old Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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welcome to the forums. i dont own a spec but a good friend of mine has one. i was extremely impressed when he got his. it accelerated good had nice torque and handled really well. im not famaliar at all with the lancer ralli art. but if i had to choose bewteen the two id choose the spec v. but if your looking to buy a brandy new spec look at the other cars spending a few more bucks and you could get a much faster ride. but if your set on a spec go for it im sure ull be pleased. im sure other spec owners will chime in

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Old Dec 2nd, 2004, 10:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'de take the spec, it is an all around nicer car.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 05:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for that direct comparison. I read the Motor Trend comparison, but it included a Focus, Ralliart, Sentra and WRX (they also placed in that order). I will be in Illinois for awhile, but since I'm getting my car towards the end of Winter, I'm hoping there won't be much snow on the ground. One last thing, I've read that Brembos actually cause more harm than good because of the lack of ABS. Which route would you recommend for basically everyday driving? I don't plan on racing, however I do plan to mod my car because I hate the feeling of driving slow, and I'm all for acceleration. Thanks again for all your help.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 09:45 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for that direct comparison. I read the Motor Trend comparison, but it included a Focus, Ralliart, Sentra and WRX (they also placed in that order). I will be in Illinois for awhile, but since I'm getting my car towards the end of Winter, I'm hoping there won't be much snow on the ground. One last thing, I've read that Brembos actually cause more harm than good because of the lack of ABS. Which route would you recommend for basically everyday driving? I don't plan on racing, however I do plan to mod my car because I hate the feeling of driving slow, and I'm all for acceleration. Thanks again for all your help.
If the option is Bembos w/o ABS or ABS w/o brembos. I would go with the ABS. Seems to be alot safer if you think about it.

I am getting some aftermarket Rotors and EBC brake pads....
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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without a doubt, the spec is the better car.

and with Mitsu motor's financial position, i'd be wary of buying a new car from them right now.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 11:39 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If the option is Bembos w/o ABS or ABS w/o brembos. I would go with the ABS. Seems to be alot safer if you think about it.

I am getting some aftermarket Rotors and EBC brake pads....

negative. ABS is fine for people who can't drive.

Learn how to use brakes without ABS and you'll make much shorter stops than those with abs....simple fact


ABS is for idiot drivers who just stab the brake pedal in all conditions.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My only problem is for a month or so I'll be dealing with icy conditions. It'd suck to have to stop suddenly, and have my wheels lock up on me. Or, is this fairly uncommon? Most of the people who had problems with Brembos admitted they were racing at the time their wheels locked up when they slammed the brakes, and I don't really plan racing. So maybe the Brembos would work out in the end. Lower insurance costs with ABS and Side Air Bags however...
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 12:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If the option is Bembos w/o ABS or ABS w/o brembos. I would go with the ABS. Seems to be alot safer if you think about it.

I am getting some aftermarket Rotors and EBC brake pads....
To what I understand the Brembo does not have ABS because it would lock up anyways. Threshold braking takes care of the need for ABS. The only time I would say ABS would be safer might be snow, and I hate driving in snow anyway.

And I would steer clear of EBC. They suck. As a general, organic compounds suck.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 02:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One last thing, any idea how a VSpec would compare to an SRT-4 (I've never been a fan of Neons until this model)? I'm thinking the Lancer would be a bad choice because I've been hearing a lot about Mitsu's problems in the vehicle department.

My original plan was to get the VSpec, then possibly purchase a Turbo-Kit when I have the extra money. However, with the SRT-4, it comes with a Turbo engine, and I wouldn't have to waste the warranty. I've heard the Neon's handling isn't that great, but I could opt for Suspension modifications as opposed to Engine ones. Or is the Sentra that much better/reliable than a Neon? Thanks again, and sorry for so many questions lol... I think this is the last one.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 03:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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SPEC V. SPEC V. SPEC V.

Not vspec.

you are talking apples and oranges w/the SPEC V and the SRT/4. Turbo, over 200 hp, and higher insurance. The SPEC V is considered an econobox for insurance purposes.

oh, for everyone else, the caps on spec v was only for emphasis.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 04:02 PM   #14 (permalink)
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depends what you like. their is no denying the srt-4 is fast like a bat out of hell with a 13.7 quarter mile time stock for the 04s. the specs on autoX tracks dominate srts belive it or not. as far as styling, its all preference. i would imagine insurance on the srt-4 may be slightly higher, gas somewhat lower, (yes they do have that lackluster sustension). as far as reliability, the 04 spec and srt seem to hold their own (not really enough long term miles logged to say too much). it is also apparent that the spec is priced much lower and you can negotiate for the specs much moreso than the srt. i would imagine if you can work your deal 15-15.5 you could get a new one with some options (if you get a spec, do not get the sunroof, actually dont ever get a sunroof if you want to make a fast car) as far as warranty, dodge is much better than nissan; least around here it is. we own a nissan and a dodge; nissan dealerships have inconsistancy (they range from somewhat helpful to str8 out rude as hell) and dodge dealerships have always been accomidating. maybe that varies somewhere else. as far as the spec v turbo kit, their are two or three that work well and have been logged somewhat long term (the pti kit has by multiple people). these cars run about 250WHP on 6-8 PSI boost. their are even a few specs in the high 12s although they may have juiced up the boost a bit more and over 8 PSI is not thought to be safe on stock internals. tuner parts for the spec are growing; AEBS IMO may likely be the ones to semi-mass-produce high quality (aka expensive) internals that would let us run much higher horsepower numbers.

either car you pick you will be happy with.
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Old Dec 3rd, 2004, 08:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks for that GREAT explanation... And I'll call it VSpec... I mean Spec V from now on. My bad.
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