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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I need advice..

Ok so I live in Toronto Canada, and I'm looking to buy a car. I've been looking at the new 2004 Sentra SE-R Spec-V. Looks pretty nice...but I want more power than 175hp. It's the 4-door, I don't think there's a coupe this year, which sucks, because I really WANT a coupe. Anyway, the advice I want is, if I buy this car, what kind of mods could I do to it to up that HP to about 200-240hp without spending a huge ammount of money? Also, what kind of body alterations could I do? And does anyone know how fast the stock SE-R spec-V goes from 0-60 in? like 7 secs? And if there IS a coupe...someone please let me know haha. I'd kill for a coupe! Coupe's are the best..

So far I have only one competing model for this car really, and that's the Acura RSX Type-S. It's 200hp stock. About 10 grand more than the sentra though. So what do you guys think? Is the sentra fast? Does it have good future modifying potential and if so, what mods are not so costly? I'm a bit of a newb, so don't laugh, but I THIRST for cars. This will also be my first car, by the way. But I'm willing to spend about a maximum of 37,000$ (over a lease haha) and about..25-30 (over a finance, ie: buying really..I can't modify a leased car )

So anyone, someone please give me some advice, I have no friends that know ANYTHING about cars haha...I need an expert who can tell me whats what..=). Thanks!
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not going to make 200-240whp n/a without spending a ton......same with goin turbo....
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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not going to make 200-240whp n/a without spending a ton......same with goin turbo....
how much is a ton? I have rather deep pockets..just, justifying it to my parents is another thing..how about modifying just the body? (Giving it a better look, like, huge skirts and a ridiculously large spoiler, like 4 feet triple tiered..haha) and what about a muffler/aircleaner upgrade, couldn't that boost HP a bit?
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lets put it this way....nobody has made a true real 190whp on an n/a spec v yet. The team RTR spec V is a fully race built motor making 250whp.

you'd be making 200whp+ much easier in an RSX-S.
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Old Apr 30th, 2004, 10:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Don't just look at the HP numbers, look at the stock torque and the weight of the car. Stock 15.x 1/4 times are nothing to laugh at.

The problem I have with the car is the overall quality.

If you can get one that works right, you can't beat the price for performance.
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Old May 1st, 2004, 12:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If you get a V, enjoy it for what it is. It is NOT a rocketship or a McLaren F1 and you wont get more than 30-40 more ponies at the wheels without turboing the car and the QR25DE (engine in the SE-R/V) does not like Mr. Turbo too much. It's a good car for money, has quite a lot of power on backroads, and one would hope the 04s will be reliable. RSX S is a nice car. I was in a sliver Neon SRT-4 (19 grand base price) and jesus they are fast and agressive (bout as much plastic used as a V<--quite a lot), it sounds like an 8 cylinder. In your price range, I'de go drive a WRX STI or Evo Lancer M. I don't think you'de look back. The new Evo's are claiming 0-60 in 4.3 seconds, and the 1320 in 12.9. That's as fast as a Ferrari 360.
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Old May 1st, 2004, 05:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Get a RX-8. Right around 30K, has the HP you want and it is a 2 door. Sorta. Or get the 2005 Mustang GT. That will turn a lot of heads.
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rx8 is nice and all, but imo overpriced and underpowered.
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Old May 1st, 2004, 01:36 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The SER is not and never was a coupe (at least the latest iteration that is). You will spend around $5000 for 200-240whp. Or you can go bolt ons and nitrous for less but I am under the impression you want the power all the time. If money isnt an issue get the RSX. You can make over 200whp w/ I/H/E Hondata and run high 13's low 14's. However you have to remember the Spec is around 17-18K while a Type S will run you 22-24K. I would get an SRT-4 and spank both of them.
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Old May 1st, 2004, 02:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Isn't the dollar different over there in Canada? One guy told me how much he spent for an STI and I thought wow he could have gotten a Beemer for that price. Then he went on to say that the exchange rate for a dollar was a little higher in Canada. I Don't know.
Anyways, Spec -v's are great torquey cars. Looks a little funny now with the 04-05 models ( my taste is biased) but these cars are a bang for the buck. Four doors. Torque filled 2.5. Limited slip diff. tough outer body panels, stock 17's. If all of these are to your likings then get it. I did. The only problem I have is having to bring this damn car to the shop to get repaired. I can't remember how many recalls it had and all types of $41t popped up which had to be repaired. I'm not trying to scare you. Its a great family car which is fairly easy to drive and has 6 speeds. Not to mention descent trunk space and lots of plastic in the interior so that the rattling keeps the kids entertained. Heehee. But I love to drive it. When I have the chance and it is not in the shop. But I just can't get over the torque for that 4 cyl. Just tap the throttle off of idle and the tires spin. Wow!
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Old May 1st, 2004, 10:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well, I'm not really looking for a family car you see. Really, I'm looking for the best car for about 30-32,000 CANADIAN dollars, for street racing, and has excellent potential for future modification, such as power upgrades etc. The SRT-4 has me interested, especially since it is a lot faster than the RSX Type-S, or am I incorrect in saying that? If someone could compare an SRT-4 to an RSX-S for me that'd be great, gimme the run down on which one you think is really best overall. The Subaru WRX STi is 46,800$ before tax. It'd run me about 900$ a month LEASE haha. Finance would be, huge. Over a thousand a month for sure. I'm gonna do 610 a month maximum. Unfortunately my parents will only pay insurance, and they don't want that to skyrocket.

I have looked at the new mustang GT but, I constantly hear horror stories about mustangs, like that they are horribly built, handling sucks, stuff like that..and it has made me weary of them. I've heard the same things about all American cars really it seems. A lot of people are urging me to avoid something like a Dodge. But the SRT-4 DOES sound good. Are the parts good? Someone said it has a lot of "plastic." That didn't sound good. Other than the SRT-4 and the RSX-S I can't find a car in that range with the same power. So someone give me the run down on those two please, and/or, some alternatives as well if possible =).
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Old May 1st, 2004, 11:13 PM   #12 (permalink)
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rx8 is nice and all, but imo overpriced and underpowered.
Ironically my Dad bought a RX-8 today. It's a hott car and in yellow it turns lots of heads. Not as fast as the speedy RX-7 but still has a lil oooomphaloompha and is really enjoyable. The semi 4 door is a nice feature too. It's 4 doors but nearly a sports car.
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 12:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Ironically my Dad bought a RX-8 today. It's a hott car and in yellow it turns lots of heads. Not as fast as the speedy RX-7 but still has a lil oooomphaloompha and is really enjoyable. The semi 4 door is a nice feature too. It's 4 doors but nearly a sports car.

Personally, I have a few problems with the RX-8. Mainly because it costs more than the RX-7 did, it is slower than the RX-7, it's heavier, than the RX-7, it doesn't look as good as the RX-7..there's a pattern here. I really hate mazda's new line-up. And I'm seriously dissapointed in the ammount of sports coupe's available. However, it's understandable I suppose, not many people buy such cars, they're expensive, and for car enthusiasts, which are far and few between these days. Personally, I'm willing to dedicated my entire income to a car most people aren't haha. Besides, I don't think the RX-8 would have much prowess on the street. For that money, I'd buy an S2000. But I can't get an S2000, the insurance would be more than the lease, since it's a 2 seater, and insurance companies expect me to die within 2 years, especially in a 2 seater. haha. The RX-8's 4 door styling is silly, what's the point? The 2 door was so hot..and wasn't it 280hp before? Why the 40hp loss? =(. Let's also not forget, it's still rotary, which is fine aslong as you have the money to keep it running..but then again, I'm no pro, just an amateur at the moment. =)
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Personally, I have a few problems with the RX-8. Mainly because it costs more than the RX-7 did, it is slower than the RX-7, it's heavier, than the RX-7, it doesn't look as good as the RX-7..there's a pattern here. I really hate mazda's new line-up. And I'm seriously dissapointed in the ammount of sports coupe's available. However, it's understandable I suppose, not many people buy such cars, they're expensive, and for car enthusiasts, which are far and few between these days. Personally, I'm willing to dedicated my entire income to a car most people aren't haha. Besides, I don't think the RX-8 would have much prowess on the street. For that money, I'd buy an S2000. But I can't get an S2000, the insurance would be more than the lease, since it's a 2 seater, and insurance companies expect me to die within 2 years, especially in a 2 seater. haha. The RX-8's 4 door styling is silly, what's the point? The 2 door was so hot..and wasn't it 280hp before? Why the 40hp loss? =(. Let's also not forget, it's still rotary, which is fine aslong as you have the money to keep it running..but then again, I'm no pro, just an amateur at the moment. =)
RX-7 had 250 I believe and that was at the crank. It was fast as hello (0-60 in 4.8) Styling is more or less opinionated. Keep in mind my Dad (he calls himself an old fart constantly) is not a young guy anymore. He owned a 69 GTO before he had kids, that was the haulin @ss years. He likes the 4 door because of how practical it is and I don't expect him to go street racing anytime soon. The point of the 4 door is so you can get more people in your car with more ease. I almost bought a 2 door, 2 seater but didnt because of how impractical it is. When you go and chill with your friends and meet new people, having more seats is a big plus (one of reasons I purchased an SE-R). Personally, I'de take a 350 over an RX-8 or S2K anyday...but that's just me.
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Old May 2nd, 2004, 01:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
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30 something thousand and u want speed....................evo or sti, no question. if ur looking for a hot 2 door.......then go for a s2000, i like the little changes they did to the 04's....bigger wheels and hid's i believe. also those infiniti g35's r hot
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