ok, i am really tired of people complaining about wether the spec or the se-r is better lets get it together now come on, we are all here because we like nissans we are mostly all here becuase we own a b15 wether its a gxe,se-r, or a spec they are all bad a** cars and deserve to be more reconized than they already are, me personally have a base se-r i have beaten a 86' 5.0 mustang hehe , a 2002 eclipse gt with 200hp stock plus it had a intake and an exhaust dont know what kind of gains they get and a 98 gs-r integra like 180 or 185 stock with and intake the spec will do the same thing im not gonna go out and try to rev on a spec to race him and disrespect the car like that i am going to laugh my a** off when i see him whoop the shi* out of a honda toyota or mitsu WE HAVE TO STOP THE CIVIL WAR its all about nissan pride here.
Ive beaten 2 gs eclipse. I dont know if their is a differance between the gt and gs. One was a auto and it was very slow the other was a manual and it was a close race(drivers race)
There is a very big difference between the gs and gt, and if you ran even with that one gs you need some help in driving, they're much slower than the se-r, spec, or even the se.
NISMO, DATSUN, NISSAN......we live for this shit. but i have to break it to ya, the first car i beat was a riced out Maxima. then i beat my friend's RSX type-S, and a "Rustang," but i couldnt tell what model "Rustang", cuz i dunno jack about them. also, i smoked a SVT "Fucus"......but i really wanted to AutoX or run a road course with him. oh well......all Nissans Rule!
There is a very big difference between the gs and gt, and if you ran even with that one gs you need some help in driving, they're much slower than the se-r, spec, or even the se.
I dont know if the manual was stock or not but it was pretty dang quick. I run a 15.2 w/a cai in the 1/4 so I dont think I drive that bad
Ive beaten 2 gs eclipse. I dont know if their is a differance between the gt and gs. One was a auto and it was very slow the other was a manual and it was a close race(drivers race)
well lets see...
2000+ eclipse GS=2.4-liter SOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder engine with 147-horsepower
2000+ eclipse GT=3.0-liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 200-horsepower
I'd say there's a slight difference. </sarcasm>
there's no way ur gonna beat an eclipse GT with intake and exhaust unless it's automatic and/or u have more mods than just i/h/e. Especially considering that the GT eclipses also have more torque than the SE-R, unlike the RSX-S
The GT eclipse was actually the car I wanted to get but it was just a little outta my price range and insurance was too high, so a good deal came up with the Spec and I grabbed it but I can't complain...i love this car!
And back to the topic, the only differences performance wise between the base SE-R and Spec is a free flow exhaust on the Spec to give it that extra 10hp, and 6-speed transmission. Now granted the 6-speed is very nice, if the 2 cars were to get an identical exhaust system (header and catback) they should be identical in power, right? then it's all up to the guy driving the 6speed to know how to drive it.............
just my .02
And back to the topic, the only differences performance wise between the base SE-R and Spec is a free flow exhaust on the Spec to give it that extra 10hp, and 6-speed transmission. Now granted the 6-speed is very nice, if the 2 cars were to get an identical exhaust system (header and catback) they should be identical in power, right? then it's all up to the guy driving the 6speed to know how to drive it.............
just my .02
Actually, on the dyno, the difference between a Spec V and a standard SE-R is less than 3whp..........Nissan is lying through their teeth when they claim the Spec has 10hp more.
And 02 Spec's are actually geared WORSE (as far as gear spacing is concerned) than are the base SE-R 5 speeds............this was remedied for 03 and 04 though with much smarter gear spacing.
Also, 3rd Gen Eclipse/Stratus R/T's are NOT very fast.
I've seen a few run (and street raced a pair.....which I both beat) and they all seem to crack off 15.3-15.6 with a decent driver..........that's IT...........autos are slower, and *barely* snag high 15's on a good run...
They DO however, have quite a lot of roll-on power..........I got into it with one from a high speed roll in my Girlfriend's 99 Neon R/T (which is a high 15 second car) and got walked quite easily.
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15.214@90.06mph out of a fridge....I don't get it?
Also, 3rd Gen Eclipse/Stratus R/T's are NOT very fast.
I've seen a few run (and street raced a pair.....which I both beat) and they all seem to crack off 15.3-15.6 with a decent driver..........that's IT...........autos are slower, and *barely* snag high 15's on a good run...
They DO however, have quite a lot of roll-on power..........I got into it with one from a high speed roll in my Girlfriend's 99 Neon R/T (which is a high 15 second car) and got walked quite easily.
thats actually what i was talking about, lots of power once you get going, good top end also for the price
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well lets see...
2000+ eclipse GS=2.4-liter SOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder engine with 147-horsepower
2000+ eclipse GT=3.0-liter SOHC 24-valve V6 with 200-horsepower
I'd say there's a slight difference. </sarcasm>
there's no way ur gonna beat an eclipse GT with intake and exhaust unless it's automatic and/or u have more mods than just i/h/e. Especially considering that the GT eclipses also have more torque than the SE-R, unlike the RSX-S
The GT eclipse was actually the car I wanted to get but it was just a little outta my price range and insurance was too high, so a good deal came up with the Spec and I grabbed it but I can't complain...i love this car!
And back to the topic, the only differences performance wise between the base SE-R and Spec is a free flow exhaust on the Spec to give it that extra 10hp, and 6-speed transmission. Now granted the 6-speed is very nice, if the 2 cars were to get an identical exhaust system (header and catback) they should be identical in power, right? then it's all up to the guy driving the 6speed to know how to drive it.............
just my .02
the exhaust are the same its the stock air box thats differant. the spec v has alot bigger opening(for air to come in) than my ser. but with a cai I dont belive there is a differance other than the gearing
The difference between the ser and spec v is minimal in my opinion. The 10hp difference is crap, it's the same exhaust. Rims 16's vs. 17's. Seats are different, 5spd vs. 6spd. I'd rather have the 5spd, the 6spd is worthless in the spec.
And YES the spec can beat a gsr integra with ease. I ran one twice the other day at my buddy's speed shop and beat him so bad I actually pulled over in his lane in front of him. He was pretty suprised considering he was the one who approached me and wanted to race. Anywayz, the sentra is a great car overall and I have love for everyone no matter what damn trim level they drive, whether a se, gx, gxe, ser, or spec.
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