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Old Jul 11th, 2005, 05:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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200SX Brake Upgrade Options

Ok before you guys get all bent out of shape for this post I have searched and all the options I have found for Brake upgrades for the 96 Nissan 200SX SE-R vehicle is as follows:

FastBrakes upgrades

Nissan AD22V (NX2000) brake upgrade

SBC 12 and 13 inch brake upgrades

Does anybody no of anymore that I am missing. I would like to go with a cheaper brake upgrade but would like a larger diameter rotor than the NX2000 rotor. Does anybody know of another rotor that could be used with the NX2000 calipers maybe that is 11 or 12 inches that will fit our cars?

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Old Jul 11th, 2005, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Um, the AD22 caliper is designed to work with the stock rotor. You gonna have custom mounts machined so you can run the larger diameter rotor? Which kind of blows your cheap ride out of the water...
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Old Jul 11th, 2005, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Um, the AD22 caliper is designed to work with the stock rotor. You gonna have custom mounts machined so you can run the larger diameter rotor? Which kind of blows your cheap ride out of the water...

Yes I am having custom brackets made but I need the rotors first.

It will not be to cost intensive for the brackets I know a few people in the machining world and I can get it done for next to nothing.

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Old Jul 11th, 2005, 07:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes I am having custom brackets made but I need the rotors first.

It will not be to cost intensive for the brackets I know a few people in the machining world and I can get it done for next to nothing.

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If that's the case then use some Wilwood calipers as it will be more cost effective than the AD22's....
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Old Jul 11th, 2005, 09:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If that's the case then use some Wilwood calipers as it will be more cost effective than the AD22's....

I already have the AD22VF calipers for the NX2000. I only gave $50.00 for them rebuilt semi-loaded from an auto parts store that went out of business. I do not know how much a set of wilwood calipers would cost.

Besides that is the same thing as the FastBrakes upgrade. I am not sure I could do one of those kits for any cheaper than there cost.

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Old Jul 12th, 2005, 01:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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just my opinion but if I were you I would get the wilwood setup. The nx2k breaks have been proven not to stop any quiker then stock breaks on our cars. There is a post on sr20 forum where this was tested. The only thing that nx2k breaks do is cut down on brake fade.
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Old Jul 12th, 2005, 01:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Um, the AD22 caliper is designed to work with the stock rotor.
The Stock NX2000 rotor not the B14 200SX Rotor... not to mention the smaller rotors on early model 1.6's .
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Old Jul 12th, 2005, 01:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The nx2k breaks have been proven not to stop any quiker then stock breaks on our cars. There is a post on sr20 forum where this was tested. The only thing that nx2k breaks do is cut down on brake fade.
I would like to see that test data...sorry gotta wave it...

Don't believe one guy from one post..do the research yourself... I've had eveything from stock to NX to Wilwood/Fastbrakes..and every set up was better than the previous set up before.

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Old Jul 12th, 2005, 02:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i personally think you are tryin to much for the best of both worlds and it will be harder to pull off... the nx2k breaks will make you stop better, grant it that you need the nx2k rotors... if you want a big rotor, try for the wilwoods, but i think you will need their caliper too...


i think you should either go the nx2k brake set up or just get the wilwood setup...
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just my opinion but if I were you I would get the wilwood setup. The nx2k breaks have been proven not to stop any quiker then stock breaks on our cars. There is a post on sr20 forum where this was tested. The only thing that nx2k breaks do is cut down on brake fade.
This was also proven of the fastbrakes setup. The issue here is fade and longevity, not stopping distance. But the internet is bench racing at it's finest....
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No way the stock B14 brakes stop with the same distances as the NX brakes, even on the first attempt... When you throw fade it's night and day difference, those B14 brakes are scary after one hard stop.. forget any sort of performance driving with those, unless you have a death wish. and as Wes stated "longevity" is a mjor issue as well
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what about another manufacturers brakes.

My mechanic used to use the twin piston celica brakes on his turbo'd b12 and they worked great.

The rotors are way thicker than our stock ones and they have a 4x100 lug pattern so they will fit. Also the calipers are twin piston so you should get better clamping force. you will have to machine a bracket but i've seen it work. It would be a worthwhile setup considering you should be able to source everything from a junk yard.

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well his problem is that i see, he wants like a huge 14" rotor but he doesn't want the big calipers to go with them.. braking is one of the most important parts of the car, you should go cheap on it... if you have the nx2k calipers, get the matchin rotors...
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Wow I did not mean to start an argument all I am wanting to do right now is find something like a 11" or 12" rotor that could be used with the NX2000 rotors. And I wanted to find out from the rest of you guys if there was any other companies that you know of that makes brake kits for our cars besides the ones I listed. That is all I have found.

I am not as interested in the NX2000 brakes for performance as I am taking up the space that my 17" rims have caused. I do plan on getting a much better brake setup for the car when I go turbo.

You could say that for right now I just want a brake system that performs marginally better and looks much better than my stock ones, they look kind of silly in those big wheels. Plus, I alredy have a set of new NX2000 calipers that is why I mentioned them. But I am not ruling out buying other calipers that would be junkyard sourced if you guys know of other setups that would bolt up to our cars. SORRY for the confusion I guess I should have cleared all this up in my first post to start this thread.

I have looked at Maxima and Infiniti Q45 brake calipers that I might could use larger rotors with but I have no idea if they will work on my car without major modifications that might not let me use a Fastbrake Wilwood setup later. I do not want to do any mods that might not let me bolt up a true aftermarket upgrade kit later.

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youre BEST option is the wilwood brake kit.. you can't have huge rotors and small calipers.. you want a matching rotor and caliper... big brake kits have a purpose.. disapate heat faster and the larger calipers increase stopping performance as well as lots... other setups you will have to do a lot of custom work which could be easy since you know a machist or it could be difficult... you will definately need a mounting bracket like discussed before...
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