It is good that you have this resource to come to before you go through your purchase. You have to think about it carefully.. and weigh your options. So far you have mentioned power/performance.. not fuel economy and shit like that. So.. the obvious choice is to get the SR20DE powered B14. Sometimes i regret getting the GA16 B14.. but i always remind myself why i got it: MPG! Not the best in the market.. but it's the best solution to what i needed/wanted that wasn't a Honda.
So go with the SE-R, you're going to be pleased.. power.. decent fuel economy.. and looks,
yeah, i dont think you'll get any parts for $1,000 that will make SE go from 115 to 140
Wet injection nitrous kit= $700 or less, bye bye stocker!!! (sr20)
Really now, you know the SR20 does have more of the line stock power but a ga with a turbo or nos (part less than 1k$) will blow right by it.
Yes I own the GA16de and with all the bolt ons and an 80lb+ stereo my NA baby is putting 129hp to the wheel (compare that with 140 at the clutch) and I wasn't in a hurry or anything.
I have measured 135hp to the wheels after factoring the weight of the stereo and that is also with the spare and jack in the car, not to mention the stock ecu (curse the aftermarket).
So after total bolt-on mods you can get about 140hp just like the sr20 with no mods (yeah yeah more potential I know)
If your not going to just bolt on and wanna go turbo and actually tune something like the ecu then go with the SE-R, much more aftermarket support, especially from JWT for ECU's and cams, turbos, oversize injectors custom programs etc... just overall much easier to mod and find parts for.
For 50 more hp just add a leather steering wheel cover and a body kit.....
NOT. (don't forget the stickers)
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hard to say since there hasnt been a "maxed out" ga16de....nor a "maxed out" sr20
SR20's are said to max out around 400hp the tranny can't hang past that. There was a guy in SCC issue that reached 476hp but that was with a GTI-r swap and a cyro treated tranny. the GA has not been maxed out yet but I'm thinkin it could get to 300hp easily with the right tuning.
SR20's are said to max out around 400hp the tranny can't hang past that. There was a guy in SCC issue that reached 476hp but that was with a GTI-r swap and a cyro treated tranny. the GA has not been maxed out yet but I'm thinkin it could get to 300hp easily with the right tuning.
nope....they dont max out at 400hp, trust me, there are plenty out there pushing past that.
Yes I own the GA16de and with all the bolt ons and an 80lb+ stereo my NA baby is putting 129hp to the wheel (compare that with 140 at the clutch) and I wasn't in a hurry or anything.
I have measured 135hp to the wheels after factoring the weight of the stereo and that is also with the spare and jack in the car, not to mention the stock ecu (curse the aftermarket).
got dyno sheets?
wasnt in a hurry for what?(i dont understand)
how did u "measure" 6 more horses to the wheels by removing weight? u dont gain HP by removing weight off the car..
the smart obvious choice sr20
the hard headed be unique choice ga16
if you blow up a ga u can probably talk someones grandma out of one for less then 500 and sell the rest of the car for 500 or less
but if you wanna swap get a 20ve
i own a ga never drove an sr but im a hard headed unique guy so
I know there's a turbo, I'm just wondering if a maxed out Ga16de could keep up with a maxed out SR20de..
Are you insane? I have a GA16DE, and i would kill to trade it for an SR20DE youve got to be kidding if you think that the little 1.6 can keep up with an engine like the sr20.
hey if an evo runs on 20 psi from the factory anything is possible for the ga or the sr with more boost but obviously the sr is gonna make more power than the ga with equivalent boost
Speak not about which ye know little. There are stock bottom end SR20s pushing over 500whp. And they are well known.
GAriffic----psi means very little if turbo size isn't given. My engine could handle 20psi on a T2 turbo, but not 20psi on a t04. BIG difference......so suggestion: lay off talking about turbos till you understand a lil more about 'em
Speak not about which ye know little. There are stock bottom end SR20s pushing over 500whp. And they are well known.
GAriffic----psi means very little if turbo size isn't given. My engine could handle 20psi on a T2 turbo, but not 20psi on a t04. BIG difference......so suggestion: lay off talking about turbos till you understand a lil more about 'em
Gotta agree with my boy Mike on this one. I can think of several 400whp plus street cars off the top of my head on stock internal DEs(9.5:1)
Sorry, but there isnt much knowledge behind this statement.
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hey if an evo runs on 20 psi from the factory anything is possible for the ga or the sr with more boost but obviously the sr is gonna make more power than the ga with equivalent boost
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