By proper fuel, I assume you're talking about 92 or better octane, or something else? (100+ octane???)
i think by "proper Fuel" he ment fuel pump and injector size
Like i said earlier if you start with an SR car it will be cost effective and painless. I honestly think that Swaping a turbo engine is better than a turbo kit. You wouldn't have to worry about compression (8.3:1 on turbo motors, 9.5:1 USDM N/A), you dont have to worry about Fuel injectors (390ccm turbo motors), and the vehicles Factory harness lines right up in SR cars.
Also you can build power eaisly in an SR20, and cheaply. like if you were to remove the BOV intake return line (allowing the BOV to dump atmoshpereically) you can gain 15-20hp right there, FREE! not to mention it will sometimes spit a little flame when you shift. Exhaust mods are cheap too. anyway my point is that turbo motors are resposive to little things here an there.
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i think by "proper Fuel" he ment fuel pump and injector size
Like i said earlier if you start with an SR car it will be cost effective and painless. I honestly think that Swaping a turbo engine is better than a turbo kit. You wouldn't have to worry about compression (8.3:1 on turbo motors, 9.5:1 USDM N/A), you dont have to worry about Fuel injectors (390ccm turbo motors), and the vehicles Factory harness lines right up in SR cars.
Also you can build power eaisly in an SR20, and cheaply. like if you were to remove the BOV intake return line (allowing the BOV to dump atmoshpereically) you can gain 15-20hp right there, FREE! not to mention it will sometimes spit a little flame when you shift. Exhaust mods are cheap too. anyway my point is that turbo motors are resposive to little things here an there.
Mostly good advice. However the NAsr20 can support Big HP regardless of compression, over 400WHP on the stock bottom end. Also they have 370cc injectors while the pulsar GTi-R motors have 440cc injectors.
Lastly you WILL NOT gain 20 HP by removing the recirc pipe. You will gain the fast and the furious sound so many people seem to pay too much attention too.
And yes I meant FUEL DELIVERY... As in injectors, pump, rail, and FPR.
Mostly good advice. However the NAsr20 can support Big HP regardless of compression, over 400WHP on the stock bottom end. Also they have 370cc injectors while the pulsar GTi-R motors have 440cc injectors.
Lastly you WILL NOT gain 20 HP by removing the recirc pipe. You will gain the fast and the furious sound so many people seem to pay too much attention too.
And yes I meant FUEL DELIVERY... As in injectors, pump, rail, and FPR.
Got it... good information to know. It sounds like the turbo version of the motor has more potential for power, (lower compression ratio, and better injectors). The problem is, it costs a heck of a lot more.
I don't care about the sound. I actually want it to be a sleeper. I'll have exhaust for sure, and 99 SE bumpers in the end, but i hope it wont look or sound like I've got a turbo.
At this point, I think im leaning toward buying an engine and swapping it. I love my car, and I don't know if I want to try and buy another. (Unless I could find one at a dealership and trade mine in).
What kind of mods are required to get to 400?
Thanks...
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I don't really see how an SR20DET coming out of RWD car makes a difference. I understand it's a different transmission setup and such and would call for some (if not quite a bit) of customization to make it work. Also can't you someway get a transverse type motor? That would call for a straight drop in now wouldn't? I'm not sure if you can a transverse setup though, maybe I should have thought about that earlier.
I don't really see how an SR20DET coming out of RWD car makes a difference. I understand it's a different transmission setup and such and would call for some (if not quite a bit) of customization to make it work. Also can't you someway get a transverse type motor? That would call for a straight drop in now wouldn't? I'm not sure if you can a transverse setup though, maybe I should have thought about that earlier.
There are many reasons why the RWD SR20's are not used. From mounts, to oil and coolant passages and other items. No need to re-invent the wheel just use a bluebird or GTi-R motor.
There are many reasons why the RWD SR20's are not used. From mounts, to oil and coolant passages and other items. No need to re-invent the wheel just use a bluebird or GTi-R motor.
Oh I see. What type of motor is in the bluebird then?
ok, first off, the GA to SR conversion isn't exactly something that's fun. It's a lot of work. You may as well get an SR powered vehicle and either turbo it or swap ina different SR, like a DET or a VE.
Anyway, a few different types of DETs:
People can take different types of SR20s and pop on a turbo which works to an extent. There's the Bluebird, Avenir, GTi-R, and Silvia. The engine is named after the car it's from. The Nissan Avenir is an updated version of the Bluebird. GTi-R refers to the Pulsar GTi-R and Sunny GTi-R. Actually, they're from AWD vehicles, but since they're front mounted, they bolt right to the FWD trannies. You cannot use a RWD engine in a FWD car, they don't mount right, the intake manifold and do on is completely off.
ok, first off, the GA to SR conversion isn't exactly something that's fun. It's a lot of work. You may as well get an SR powered vehicle and either turbo it or swap ina different SR, like a DET or a VE.
Anyway, a few different types of DETs:
People can take different types of SR20s and pop on a turbo which works to an extent. There's the Bluebird, Avenir, GTi-R, and Silvia. The engine is named after the car it's from. The Nissan Avenir is an updated version of the Bluebird. GTi-R refers to the Pulsar GTi-R and Sunny GTi-R. Actually, they're from AWD vehicles, but since they're front mounted, they bolt right to the FWD trannies. You cannot use a RWD engine in a FWD car, they don't mount right, the intake manifold and do on is completely off.
Go to SR20forums for all the info you need
Ah, well that's nice to know. =) I was a little misinformed on this subject, I didn't know there was a problem with it because I was told different. Thanks for scheduling this session to school me.
ok, first off, the GA to SR conversion isn't exactly something that's fun. It's a lot of work. You may as well get an SR powered vehicle and either turbo it or swap ina different SR, like a DET or a VE.
Anyway, a few different types of DETs:
People can take different types of SR20s and pop on a turbo which works to an extent. There's the Bluebird, Avenir, GTi-R, and Silvia. The engine is named after the car it's from. The Nissan Avenir is an updated version of the Bluebird. GTi-R refers to the Pulsar GTi-R and Sunny GTi-R. Actually, they're from AWD vehicles, but since they're front mounted, they bolt right to the FWD trannies. You cannot use a RWD engine in a FWD car, they don't mount right, the intake manifold and do on is completely off.
Go to SR20forums for all the info you need
While that IS good information, and it MAY be the best solution for some of us, I don't think it's always the way for some of us to go. I'll bet there are quite a few people that have put a lot of cash into their cars and just tossing that for a "newer" car won't happen. I, myself, would LOVE to sell my car and get an se-r, but right now, it's completely paid for. I have enough in the suspension, cosmetics (eh), and wheels and brakes, that I'd rather do the swap.
That's ME though. There are some that may be more financially beneficial to buy an SE-R equipped car. Some not. PLUS, if it's hard as hell or not, it'd definately be a great experience dropping in a new motor.
Mostly good advice. However the NAsr20 can support Big HP regardless of compression, over 400WHP on the stock bottom end. Also they have 370cc injectors while the pulsar GTi-R motors have 440cc injectors.
Lastly you WILL NOT gain 20 HP by removing the recirc pipe. You will gain the fast and the furious sound so many people seem to pay too much attention too.
And yes I meant FUEL DELIVERY... As in injectors, pump, rail, and FPR.
i would like to stand up for my self on the Recirc hose removal. The turbo ECU accounts for the air being delivered in blow off. Therefore if that is not present it creates a temporary rich condition therefore a small power gain. not neccesarily 20hp but something. Not to mention whats wrong with the sound of a BOV? thats not ricey. Big F'n wings and body kits are cheesy not the sound of turbo blow off! Anyway please retort.
Wheres Mike Kojima when you need him?
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