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post #1 of 21 Old Sep 26th, 2004, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy REAR BRAKES!

How do I know when to replace the REAR BRAKES?
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post #2 of 21 Old Sep 26th, 2004, 09:36 PM
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drums or discs?

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post #3 of 21 Old Sep 26th, 2004, 09:59 PM Thread Starter
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WELL THE FRONT BRAKES ARE DISCS. SO I GUESS THE REAR BRAKES ARE Discs.
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WELL THE FRONT BRAKES ARE DISCS. SO I GUESS THE REAR BRAKES ARE Discs.
That is a poor assumption.

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very poor indeed, the only sentra i know of that has 4 wheel disc stock is a b13 se-r...my girlfriends b14(what you have) has disc front and DRUM rear. most economy cars have disc front(for safety) and drum rear(for cost cutting).

basically when the brakes start making noise when the brakes are applied is a good time to change them. and if you've never done drum brakes then go buy a haynes manual, they're pretty cheap and you'll be absolutly lost without one.

i have a question though. how come when you replace the brake pads/shoes the brakes seem to lose their effectiveness...like the pedal goes down further before anything happens, whats up with this?

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B13 : SE-R = Disc/Disc E/XE/GXE/SE = Disc/Drum
B14 : SE-R/SE/SE-L = Disc/Disc E/XE/GXE/SE = Disc/Drum

excessive vibration , fade , and more pedal effort are situation for a brake inspection.


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B13 : SE-R = Disc/Disc E/XE/GXE/SE = Disc/Drum
B14 : SE-R/SE/SE-L = Disc/Disc E/XE/GXE/SE = Disc/Drum

excessive vibration , fade , and more pedal effort are situation for a brake inspection.

OMEGA, I have DRUM BRAKES IN THE REAR. How do I know if they need to be replaced? Would I have to do the test in REVERSE?

P.S. I replaced my front brakes today. Replacing Front Brakes is a piece of cake if you ask me.
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Take off the rear wheels and brake drums. Examine the brake shoes. The lining wear limit is 1.5mm (0.059 in) according to the Factory Service Manual.

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How do I take off the Brake Drums? I have the tools
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Take off the rear wheel. Release the parking brake. To remove the rear drum you just slide the drum off. Grab it at opposite ends and pull/rock, then move your grip and do it again. It should start to move and finally slide off.

If it is hard to remove, you back off the adjuster, screw 2 bolts in the threaded holes in the drum and turn them to drive the drum off.





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dont forget to take off the wheel bearing/hub. it will be almost impossible to put the brakes back together with that stuff in your way.

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dont forget to take off the wheel bearing/hub. it will be almost impossible to put the brakes back together with that stuff in your way.
That is not the procedure in the Factory Service Manual. It indicates to remove the drum. Then remove the brake shoe retainer followed by the spring by rotating the shoes. Then remove the adjuster and parking brake cable. Once the shoes are removed, remove the retainer holding the toggle lever to the brake shoe and separate the parts.

Assembly is the reverse of removal. Apply grease to the places the brake shoes contact the backing plate before assembly. Also, shorten the adjuster by turning it so there is room for the new, thicker brake shoes.

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That is not the procedure in the Factory Service Manual. It indicates to remove the drum. Then remove the brake shoe retainer followed by the spring by rotating the shoes. Then remove the adjuster and parking brake cable. Once the shoes are removed, remove the retainer holding the toggle lever to the brake shoe and separate the parts.

Assembly is the reverse of removal. Apply grease to the places the brake shoes contact the backing plate before assembly. Also, shorten the adjuster by turning it so there is room for the new, thicker brake shoes.

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go and do it for yourself, you'll see.

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post #14 of 21 Old Sep 28th, 2004, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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My rear brakes need to be clean and adjusted. Thats what the guy at Mr.Tire told me. By the way my rear brake shoe pads are in good condtion. I need to pratice alot before I replace the rear brakes myself, because it just looks so complicated.
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well its really not that hard, as long as you have a diagram/picture next to you or you mirror the other side...its a piece of cake.

hell my girlfriend can do it, except shes not strong enough to pull the springs, thats where i come in lol. but we did it on our own without any prior experience just by comparing the side we were working on to the untouched side. its really not hard at all.

(and removing the wheel hub! lol )

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