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Old Sep 14th, 2004, 08:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A couple of questions about stick shift transmissions

I've driven stick for about a year now and these are things that I've thought about but never done from fear of damage.

1. Is it OK to shift the gears with the car off?
When clutch pedal up or down, or both?

2. What happens if you pull the tranny out of gear while the car is moving?
Lets say you're cruising in whatever gear, and you pull the stick to neutral?
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Old Sep 14th, 2004, 10:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I take it youre not around manual trannys much.

1.) yes
2.)it will do same thing as an auto in neutral(N).
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Old Sep 14th, 2004, 10:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Don't make a habit of either one though. If you pull the tranny out of gear without pushing down the clutch pedal then for a second you're placing all of the load intended for the entire gear splines on the tips of the splines, which could round them off or break them off. No big deal once in a while cuz it's not very likely to happen but if you make a habit out of it you may encourage future problems to occur a bit sooner.
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Old Sep 15th, 2004, 12:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't make a habit of either one though. If you pull the tranny out of gear without pushing down the clutch pedal then for a second you're placing all of the load intended for the entire gear splines on the tips of the splines, which could round them off or break them off. No big deal once in a while cuz it's not very likely to happen but if you make a habit out of it you may encourage future problems to occur a bit sooner.
This is a little random but, you can actually shift without a clutch. I DONT recommend it for beginners because unless you get it at the exact Rpm you will grind the crap out of your gears. Anyway.. there you go. Dont worry about damaging anything though, most beginners clutches dont last very long anyway.. not a flame on you, I burnt a couple when I first started.
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/\ dont nissans have a shift lock that does a pretty good job of discouraging such shifting?

however, taking his logic you can safely take it out of gear without putting the clutch down. i dont recomend yanking it out if it doesn't want to come, but with proper throttle feathering you can make it slide out like butter, wich is what i usually do (sometimes i just dont feel like puting the clutch down, its so far!)

if you apply the throttle just enough to maintain speed(or very slightly declerarating) it effectivly takes the load off the transmission, this is when it slides out like butter. if you have to force it DONT DO IT. and dont do it on hills(there aren't any here) because if there's a hill there's a load, no matter if your going up or going down.

(BTW: picked this habbit up from driving my 56 dodge truck, that thing has a heavy clutch and its no fun to push it down all the time.)
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Old Sep 15th, 2004, 12:25 AM   #6 (permalink)
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/\ dont nissans have a shift lock that does a pretty good job of discouraging such shifting?

however, taking his logic you can safely take it out of gear without putting the clutch down. i dont recomend yanking it out if it doesn't want to come, but with proper throttle feathering you can make it slide out like butter, wich is what i usually do (sometimes i just dont feel like puting the clutch down, its so far!)

if you apply the throttle just enough to maintain speed(or very slightly declerarating) it effectivly takes the load off the transmission, this is when it slides out like butter. if you have to force it DONT DO IT. and dont do it on hills(there aren't any here) because if there's a hill there's a load, no matter if your going up or going down.

(BTW: picked this habbit up from driving my 56 dodge truck, that thing has a heavy clutch and its no fun to push it down all the time.)
Lol, nice. I actually havent tried it yet with my nissan, ive only done it on american cars (no sense ruining a fine japanese transmission, right?) but maybe ill try next time I get stuck in traffic, just for fun. --
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