How much does a short shifter really help?

200sxOuTKasT · May 3rd, 2004, 06:11 PM

I'm just curious because right now I see at www.courtesyparts.com the B&M short shifter for a mere $110 + $10 shipping. I'm very tempted to get one but when I think about it, I have yet to see any REAL improvement from having just a shorter shift. Don't take me wrong, I've driven my friend's crx with a short shifter, but I couldn't really see how much faster it was by only having to move 1" instead of 2" when shifting. It felt like there once no difference at all in how fast I shifted except that it was much more "race-like" to shift so little instead of the long stock throws. So I'm curious now how much faster people have improved their 1/4 or 1/8 times by having a short shifter, and if $110 is really worth that improvement.

psuLemon · May 3rd, 2004, 07:58 PM

a short shifter will just give you more persist and accurate throws and faster shifts, i dont know if it will do too much on a 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile, but it does help out a little.. maybe a tenth of a second.. im not positive but you will enjoy it..

DanTheMan · May 5th, 2004, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by psulemon

a short shifter will just give you more persist and accurate throws and faster shifts, i dont know if it will do too much on a 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile, but it does help out a little.. maybe a tenth of a second.. im not positive but you will enjoy it..

I think I've got a pace-setter short in my garage for my 97 1.6 200,
I don't plan on putting it in as the install looks like i need a lift (I just don't get under my car with a factory jack, sorry) and it says you gotta pull of the cat, the heat shield just to see the connection, sorry but I just had it all custom welded (try to take that off) I thought this was a top-down procedure not bottom-up!
A 10th of a second?
Hardly worth buying a 100 dollar stick, a 100 dollar jack and doing 100 worth of labor yourself.
Just saved me several nights of agravation (much more than 1 10th of 1 sec.)

James · May 5th, 2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DanTheMan

I think I've got a pace-setter short in my garage for my 97 1.6 200,
I don't plan on putting it in as the install looks like i need a lift (I just don't get under my car with a factory jack, sorry) and it says you gotta pull of the cat, the heat shield just to see the connection, sorry but I just had it all custom welded (try to take that off) I thought this was a top-down procedure not bottom-up!
A 10th of a second?
Hardly worth buying a 100 dollar stick, a 100 dollar jack and doing 100 worth of labor yourself.
Just saved me several nights of agravation (much more than 1 10th of 1 sec.)

its a piece of cake... takes like 40 min. you can do it with jackstands and a floor jack. its worth every penny.

on my car I only have the pivot a little halfway up the threads... I remember driving another car with the pivot as high as it will move (shortest throw possible) and it felt like... like... a Honda

aphex4000 · May 5th, 2004, 02:58 PM

In terms of driving comfort, I would never give mine(B&M shifter) up. The SS combined with the ES bushing makes shifting through gears as simple and precise as flipping a light switch since the rubber seat around the stock pivot is completely eliminated. The install is easy too, takes about half and hour.

psuLemon · May 5th, 2004, 05:04 PM

dantheman, i dont know why you are givin me a hard time or if you didn't mean to link it to me, but i was just giving my experience with my pacesetter short shifter, i am waiting to get all the es bushings once i get all the sway bars, but i love me shifter... and was well worth the money to get eht short shifter.. i grind less and i have better and faster shifts