Yes, you're correct, but the point is that a grounding kit will replace the old ground points and bring back to new or even improve over new the existing grounding points. I'm not talking about putting 5 grounding wires in the same spot, I'm talking about a kit that touches all of the stock grounding points, not just one point with a hundred different wires.
As far as the amps go, when I say "high power" I'm talking 1000watts or more. If you hook up the cheap 8 or 10awg ground cable and don't bother cutting off the exess you will cook said amplifier. By using 4, 2, or 0awg(if the amp will accept it), the amp will sound cleaner and run cooler. Look at the factory reccomendations on the box of any high power amp, these specs will have been written by the electronic engineer who designed the thing, I can gaurantee you that it will say you need to use 4awg cabling or probably void the warranty. If you need further proof, look at the installation components section of a crutchfield magazine and read their reccomendations for amp kits with respect to wattage
Ok well I misunderstood you on this topic. Your definitly right about this.
Regarding grounding kits, I understand the lengths manufacturers go through to save money, but they're not going to leave something out if it affects proper funtioning of the vehicle just to save a buck ( Im sure this point could be argued though). If the vehicle needs more ground circuits, it will be done. Wildman made the best point here about the whole issue, about old wires getting corroded and such.
And your completely misinterpreting my post, which is probably my fault. I still stand by my argument, if the car NEEDS something to function properly, its going to be there. Yeah, they could have put bigger brakes on the b14, but it doesnt need it. The brakes it has are totally suitable for what the car does. Every car has its purpose, I think its obvious the b14 was made as an economy commuter car, not for going 100mph down the highway/track.
But since your an engineer in whatever field, I guess I'll have to take your word on this. Thats not sarcasm btw
It's an improvement to an (sometimes barely) adequet system. You are saying that the car doesn't need it, so why do it, right? Well, Wildmane brought up one good reason, about the affects of time. But I think it works for newer cars as well. I noticed no power gains on my 01, but the windows went up and down faster, the stereo did sound better, and she just seemed to drive smoother.
Well, I guess your HS autoshop teach is a old gear-head, who loves carb'ed V8's from his youth. I guess they didn't have as much use for wiring back then, but given todays technology in cars, I would say it's a worthwhile investment.
That wasn't a shot at your teacher, but lets face it, old wrenches can be very stubborn. Shit, any older person can be extremely set in their ways.
Well, I guess your HS autoshop teach is a old gear-head, who loves carb'ed V8's from his youth. I guess they didn't have as much use for wiring back then, but given todays technology in cars, I would say it's a worthwhile investment.
That wasn't a shot at your teacher, but lets face it, old wrenches can be very stubborn. Shit, any older person can be extremely set in their ways.
Hes not an old gearhead, and hes not a HS teacher. Hes my college instructor and one of the most knowledgeble technicians this side of the US when it comes to any sort of vehicle. He has a masters in automotive technology. When I went to take my ASEs, almost every single one of the technicians there were trained by him. Im pretty sure he knows what hes talking about
Wildman did make a good point, thats why I changed my mind somewhat about these kits. I'll stop arguing now, Im just shoving my foot farther and farther into my mouth every time I type something , bleh.
But your right about old gear heads...they drive me nuts. They run rampant around where I live. If I even mention anything positive about imports, I get reemed for it.