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Old Nov 25th, 2002, 08:45 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I tested out the steel version for Josh and it was a great addition to the car. It's worth just getting rid of the squeaks and rattles from the trunk. With a better suspension, I think this will make the car handle awesome. It's probably the easiest install I have put on the car. 15 minutes tops. Seat fits fine too. I'm waiting to see if a triangulated version will be even better.
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Old Nov 25th, 2002, 11:05 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I'm assuming this triangulated version will simply have a diagonal bar that runs from one corner down to an opposite corner to be attached? I wonder if a person could simply buy a 4'X2' sheet of steel or aluminum and screw it into the opening behind their seat and accomplish all of this that way? It would be heavier though I'd think.
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Old Nov 25th, 2002, 12:30 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I'm assuming this triangulated version will simply have a diagonal bar that runs from one corner down to an opposite corner to be attached?
It will probably have a bar coming up from each wheel well, meeting in the middle of the center bar.


Quote from sr20deforum:
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Are you going to finish the triangulated version before you start 'producing' the braces? Either way is fine with me, I'd prefer the triangulated version.
I'm not sure yet.
The triangulated version might take another month or so to develop.
It seems like most people don't want to pay the extra $, and also want the rear stb ASAP.
I hope people won't mind waiting to see both versions.

Currently, I have to make another aluminum brace, to change an angle.
The current version fits, but a little muscle is required to make fit on the studs.

UPDATE:
I added pictures of the aluminum version, installed in my car.
Look here:
http://www.geocities.com/jjpalmer314/b13rearstb.html

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Old Nov 25th, 2002, 04:52 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I'm willing to wait for both versions to be refined. I'd like to see both before I make a decision.
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Old Nov 25th, 2002, 06:38 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I'm not impatient at all... I pretty much agree with Toolapcfan. There's enough "little" things I can do on/with my car until they've both been through the "skunk" works.

Take your time, Josh. Most of us are always willing to wait for a good/superior product. And if I haven't said it before, thanks for all the effort and r/d you're putting in on this.

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Old Nov 29th, 2002, 03:24 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm not impatient at all... I pretty much agree with Toolapcfan. There's enough "little" things I can do on/with my car until they've both been through the "skunk" works.

Take your time, Josh. Most of us are always willing to wait for a good/superior product. And if I haven't said it before, thanks for all the effort and r/d you're putting in on this.

Later,
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Mark said it perfectly for me. I can wait.

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Old Dec 6th, 2002, 05:55 PM   #52 (permalink)
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update

Sorry - I was not feeling well yesterday, and stayed home in bed most of the day.
Not what I needed, as far behind at work as I am.

The next steps still are:
- make a 7/8" hex center bar
- correct an angle between the bracket and block

I'm having the 7/8" hex bar cut today.
Our manual lathe operator is gone today,
but should get to it on Monday, 12/9.

I'm also going to get started on the block/bracket modification today.

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Old Dec 12th, 2002, 07:12 AM   #53 (permalink)
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The manual lathes have been busy all week. Hopefully they'll get a start on the 7/8" center bar today.

When the time comes for production, I'll e-mail everyone that I have e-mail addresses for, post on the forum(s), then PM as a last resort.

For those of you who have not sent me an e-mail, please do so:
PhattyB13 (nissanforums)
james_se-r (nissanforums)
b_dyche (nissanforums)
powell (nissanforums)
rmsstyle (sr20deforum)
SERawr (sr20deforum)
92_Sentra (sr20deforum)

Here are the pertinent links for this project:
http://www.geocities.com/jjpalmer314/b13rearstb.html
http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthrea...threadid=29247
http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...&threadid=8739

Please send me an e-mail @ jpalmer@qmiwi.com
with the following information:

Name
City, State and/or zip code
e-mail address
Quantity
Level of committment
Forum and forum ID if applicable

Thanks!
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 09:51 AM   #54 (permalink)
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update

Currently I have 99 people on the list, including se-r list, sr20deforum and nissanforums.
5 of those haven't responded with additional requested information.
1 includes me.
99 does not include a few 'maybes'.

The 7/8" hex version of the center bar should be done today, so I'll try that later and post results.
The block might get modified today, maybe tomorrow - correcting an angle so it will fit/install better.

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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 10:14 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I can't believe I didn't find this till now. I am definitely interested, and depending on price, am willing to wait for the triangular one too. I'll send you an email in a minute. BTW, how soon are we talking about for this group deal? I'm going home next week till Jan. 4th, so I'd hope it's sometime after that. I think I'll make this a sticky.

EDIT: Oh, DTyne should have just sent you an email, he's my roomate, so we'll be getting them shipped to the same place. So can you get those packaged together so we can save a little on shipping when it comes time? I guess I can just remind you then.
So make that 101 people so far.
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 06:26 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Update...really, it's an update!

First I'd like to apologize for the slow development.
All the R&D is done at my work, and I'm way behind on quotes,
computer projects, and have been busy on weekends also.

I have also forgotten to e-mail updates to people that are
not on the forums - SORRY!

And now for something completely different...

I made some progress today!
The 7/8" hex center bar is done. I think it is plenty rigid.
The blocks are now modified with a compound angle, to account
for the seat back and also the angle between the strut tower
mounts, relative to ground.

I posted pictures on my web page, take a look:
http://www.geocities.com/jjpalmer314/b13rearstb.html

The list is up to 106, including the se-r list, sr20deforum
and nissanforums.
6 of those haven't responded with additional requested information.
106 does not include a few 'maybes'.

Next I need to modify (slightly) the pocket that locates the
block to make it easier to clamp the parts for welding.
When that's done, it'll be time to weld another set.
Hopefully that will be done this week.
I've said that before, but I'll try my best.

I want to make sure this is going to install easily, so it takes
time, a bit of trial, error, correction to get it right.

I'll work up a price when the design is final. I'm still
confident the $50ish target is attainable (not including shipping).

The pertinent links to forum threads are here:
http://www.sr20deforum.com/showthrea...threadid=29247
http://www.nissanforums.com/showthre...&threadid=8739

Thank you for your patience!

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Old Dec 17th, 2002, 08:42 PM   #57 (permalink)
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So from what I can gather from this picture:
http://www.geocities.com/jjpalmer314...ount2mod1a.jpg
you are looking at mounting the triangulated brace to the pivot point of the fold down seats, at least that's what I think that is. Guess my thoughts of getting my rear seats to fold down on my SE-R is out the door (pun intended)
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Old Dec 18th, 2002, 07:36 AM   #58 (permalink)
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mounting the triangulated brace to the pivot point of the fold down seats
The threaded holes near the bottom of the picture you referenced are mount locations / pivot points for fold down rear seats?
I wasn't sure what they were for.
Were they an option on all b13s?
I don't think I've seen an se-r with them from the factory.

If that's what those threaded holes are for, then fold down back seats will not be compatible with the triangulated design I'm working on. The 'normal' b13 rear stb design should still work, although I haven't seen the fold down rear seats, so I can't be 100% certain.

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Old Dec 18th, 2002, 01:18 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Rear fold down seats were part of the GXE and the Limited Edition cars. Probably was also an option on other trim levels. Of course only the 4-door cars had them.
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Old Dec 18th, 2002, 01:32 PM   #60 (permalink)
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O.K. Thanks.
So that means that those of you with 4 door b13's with fold down rear seats won't be able to use the triangulated design that I'm working on.

Is there anyone within a reasonable distance to Madison, WI with fold down rear seats, that would be willing to meet up and test fit the rear stb?
(maybe I should take a vacation to Hawaii... LOL )

Also note that I'm planning on modifying the 'original' design such that the triangulated version can be added on later.

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