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Old Jan 7th, 2004, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a very rare cluster out of a 1993 100nx (jap import) that is all digital (well its rare in England!). Im looking for the wiring diagrams of the TWO connectors that plug into the back of this dash!.

NOTE: The wiring diagrams will be identical to that of the normal dash. I know this because i have plugged a normal analogue dash straight into my 100nx and everything works the same

Im guessing some of you will realize that the normal analogue dash isnt actually analogue when you remove it but is actually all electronic!!. The only thing that makes it analogue is the fact that the speedo / RPM / fuel and temp are all NEEDLES. With the dash that i have they are all LCD Displays.

So i really need to know which each of the 20-30 wires are that make up the two plugs at the back of the dash.

Cant anyone help
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Old Jan 18th, 2004, 08:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a very rare cluster out of a 1993 100nx (jap import) that is all digital (well its rare in England!). Im looking for the wiring diagrams of the TWO connectors that plug into the back of this dash!.
Drop me an email at <saphirenx<at>home<dot>nl> so
I can email you a PDF I made from scans out of a workshop manual.
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NOTE: The wiring diagrams will be identical to that of the normal dash. I know this because i have plugged a normal analogue dash straight into my 100nx and everything works the same.
Not sure what you mean,
but MY digital dash has THREE connectors...

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Im guessing some of you will realize that the normal analogue dash isnt actually analogue when you remove it but is actually all electronic!!
This is only true for cars with a GA16DE (injected) engine, those with a carburator -like mine- have a TRUE analog/mechanical speedo drive, but can quite easily be re-fitted to electronic; I've done so...
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With the dash that i have they are all LCD Displays.
They're VFL actually; Vacuum Fluorescent
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So i really need to know which each of the 20-30 wires
are that make up the two plugs at the back of the dash.
There are 34 wires; one plug with 10 contacts, one similar shaped
one with 12 and one smaller model in the middle with 12 contacts.
And there's the two prong plug going to the lights buzzer (black box)...
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This is only true for cars with a GA16DE (injected) engine, those with a carburator -like mine- have a TRUE analog/mechanical speedo drive, but can quite easily be re-fitted to electronic; I've done so...
Actually 91/92 (i know 91, think 92) Sentras w/ GA16DE (injected) engines still have cable driven speedos...
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The drive/sensor are sized the same and can be exchanged
in a couple of minutes, provided the drive hasn't corroded
into place like mine had after 10+ years...


Mechanical drive on the left, Sensor right hand side with a cable
"bodged" on because of lack of original cabling on my cars' loom...
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Hi,

I have a very rare cluster out of a 1993 100nx (jap import) that is all digital (well its rare in England!). Im looking for the wiring diagrams of the TWO connectors that plug into the back of this dash!.

NOTE: The wiring diagrams will be identical to that of the normal dash. I know this because i have plugged a normal analogue dash straight into my 100nx and everything works the same

Im guessing some of you will realize that the normal analogue dash isnt actually analogue when you remove it but is actually all electronic!!. The only thing that makes it analogue is the fact that the speedo / RPM / fuel and temp are all NEEDLES. With the dash that i have they are all LCD Displays.

So i really need to know which each of the 20-30 wires are that make up the two plugs at the back of the dash.

Cant anyone help
Thanks
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WHERE CAN YOU GET THAT DASH?
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WHERE CAN YOU GET THAT DASH?
Got mine off of eBay for $35,- and
$30,- shipping US to Netherlands...

Figuring out wiring took me over 6 months
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Got mine off of eBay for $35,- and
$30,- shipping US to Netherlands...

Figuring out wiring took me over 6 months
ILL WAIT IT OUT! I WANT THE DASH! got a wire diagram? and which car in the us has that dash?
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Actually 91/92 (i know 91, think 92) Sentras w/ GA16DE (injected) engines still have cable driven speedos...
The '92 (E at least) also have cable driven speedos. I left mine off for almost a year, since I have never been pulled over, and the car would show less mileage. It's a moot point now, because I ain't sellin till it dies, and It may live forever! 155k and still going strong.
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The '92 (E at least) also have cable driven speedos. I left mine off for almost a year, since I have never been pulled over, and the car would show less mileage. It's a moot point now, because I ain't sellin till it dies, and It may live forever! 155k and still going strong.
WHERE CAN I GET THE DASH THOUGH? ANY LINKS?
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ILL WAIT IT OUT! I WANT THE DASH! got a wire diagram? and which car in the us has that dash?
Mine if off of a '93 NX1600.

I have an NX too, only a '92 European version (called 100NX).
So fitment in the bezel was no problem, but the wiring was.
US cars have quite some differences in comparison to European
ones, even if they're the same type...

To name one obvious difference; lights...
Europeans don't have side Marker Lights and
the amber lights "in between" the headlights.
And over here a rear foglight is mandatory...

Sorry, no links, I lucked out on this one myself...
Just keep an eye on eBay; I've seen more being
offered in the past 8 months or so...

Search for "Nissan NX" and/or "Digital Cluster"
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That is a nice dash. Time for me to join the scavenger hunt.
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Im guessing some of you will realize that the normal analogue dash isnt actually analogue when you remove it but is actually all electronic!!. The only thing that makes it analogue is the fact that the speedo / RPM / fuel and temp are all NEEDLES.
BTW, you can send analog signals through wires.
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Would a early 90's nissan stanza dash fit a 91 sentra xe?
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Would a early 90's nissan stanza dash fit a 91 sentra xe?

Most likely not. I have a Stanza and a B13 Sentra SE-R. The Stanza dash is HUGE compared to the Sentra. It'll need to be cut to fit in. Even then it won't fit right. The design of the Stanza dash is different than the Sentra's.
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Okay are you guys saying that if I found a 1991 NX with a 1.6 in it, the digital cluster will work in my 93? This may sound silly, but if the NX has a digital cluster does it have a electronic speedo? Because the 91-92 sentra have cable speedo. Need to clear this up, because it's bothering me.
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