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B13 91-94 chassis 1991-1994 Sentra and 1991-1993 NX

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post #1 of 23 Old Jul 11th, 2003, 06:56 PM Thread Starter
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BB SR20DET vs SR20VE

Ok There I got everyones attention lol.

I want to know which one would be the better all around sports machine.

I'm starting this thread for information So EVERYONE with factual information can respond.

Now I don't know a whole lot about either one of these most excellant pieces of japenease workmanship. I just want to know which would be the better ALL around driver.

Lets also keep score!

1 Daily Commuting Drivability
2 Gas Mileage
3 Relability
4 Power across the curve
5 Peak power

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1 VE
2 DET

After enough replys I will tally up all the scores,
And give you all the anwser.

THIS IS NOT CONCLUSIVE OR DEFINITIVE.

ITs merely a learning and information curve for everyone.Besides I'm sure everyone wants to comment and get everyone elses opinon. Also remember its just an opinion so no hard feelings.

So let the games begin,

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post #2 of 23 Old Jul 11th, 2003, 09:38 PM
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just go to sr20deforum, they got loads of info on both engine and everyone can go read for themselves and decide for themselves.

my vote is DET, but VE sound very very attractive to me too.

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I understand that I can search somewhere else. I want to Know versuses each other nobody else has done this so It kinda narrows the search.

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SR20VE Specifications:
SR20VE - 187hp CVT 6 speed Auto 97-2001
SR20VE - 204hp 6 speed Manual 2001-Present
SR20VET - 276hp AWD Turbo 2002-Present
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From www.gonzonx.com
One especially notable feature of this new engine is its Variable Valve Lift and Timing (VVL) system, which incorporates two intake and exhaust cams each for high and low speed operation. The VVL system uses three stage valve actuation control to optimize the opening/closing timing and lift of the intake and exhaust valves by switching between the low rpm cam and the high rpm cam according to the engine speed. Moreover, electronic control of intake and exhaust valve actuation enables the NEO VVL engine to generate maximum torque of 144.6 ft-lb @ 6,000 rpm and maximum power of 187.4 hp @ 7,000 rpm, for impressive torque and power output.

Engine performance is uniquely characterized by a flat torque curve over the entire engine speed range and quick, sharp throttle response. With the NEO VVL, drivers can experience a new world of sporty, powerful driving performance, whether traveling on a winding road or cruising at high speed on the highway.

SR20DET... BlueBird Specs:
Displacement: 1998cc (2.0 liter)
Cam type: DOHC 16 valve, chain driven cam sprockets
Bore and stroke: 86mm x 86mm
Compression: 8.5 : 1
Horsepower: 205ps at 6000rpm
Torque: 203 ft/lbs at 4000rpm
Stock boost: 7 psi
Injector size: 370cc/min
Compressor: T-25, 60 trim 56mm BCI-1 comp.
Turbine: T-25, 62 trim 53.8mm 0.64 A/R housing.
Center Section: Journal bearings

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1 Daily Commuting Drivability
2 Gas Mileage
3 Relability
4 Power across the curve
5 Peak power
1.. either one.. doesnt matter.. turbo may be more fun to drive.
2.. Gas mileage? Who cares? Maybe 20-28 city.
3.. both Nissan... just be sure you get a good warrenty on the engine... but they are both SR20 engines and a very great and reliable engines.
4.. Look above....
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Refer to http://www.gonzonx.com for some dyno chart figures on the SR20VE.

Plese search before asking. Questions such as yours have been answered many, MANY times.

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yep.. SEARCH..
i'm siitin here doin other people's homework....
it took me 7 minutes to find that information... all from this forum and the SR20DEforum..
if i can do it, anyone can

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AGAIN FOR THE SECOND TIME
I have searced many many times and I know plenty about both engines.

I was merely wanting everyone elses opinion

If I here "search" again I'm gonna scream.

READ my first thread this is NOT info for me. geez

And again NOBODY has done a comparasion like this before.If so I will retract my tread and opt to the already established one.

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sr20vet, as tim allen would say, "MORE POWER," but other than that, mostly what it depends on is how much money you got in your pocket and how good of connections you have to determine which to get, but if i had the $$$$ and the right connection i would take a sr20vet
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First, why compare an na engine to a turbocharged one? Its a given than the DET will have more potential over the VE.

What you need to compare is the DET vs. the VET, so you're on the level and have some sort of a solid, common foundation for a worthwhile comparison.

Also, what are you really looking for, facts or opinions? You first ask for facts, and now you want opinions. Let me compare those two terms for you first. Facts are facts. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

To learn about the DET, go to http://www.sr20deforum.com.

To learn about the VE(T), go to http://www.gonzonx.com.

Read the facts for yourself and come to your own conclusion. Don't rely on opinions to make your decisions.
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Read the facts for yourself and come to your own conclusion. Don't rely on opinions to make your decisions.
1 LOL who said I was making a decision on opinions
2 I DID ask for opinions in a unbiased factual way.
3 I wouldn't won't your opinion anyway.
4 You don't like the thread or the options I gave...Don't reply.

Geez why do I get so much flak ITS MY THREAD. You don't like it start your on.

WOW when I ask for opinions I SURE do get'um

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In my opinion, for a purely daily driver, I'd go with the VE.It has a little extra complicatin in the valvetrain, but nothing like the added complexity of a turbo system.Turbo engines require more frequent maintenance, and if you are like me,maintenance gets skipped a little too often.Do that with the turbo and it will kill the turbo quckly.If you plan to race it, the turbo engine offers more ultimate potential,but you have to remember the maintenance-synthetic oil every 2500 miles to be safe.The VET has the best power potential from a smooth streetable engine,but it is expensive and maintenance intensive.

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Why can't everyone give a reply like "himilefrontier"

Nice,perfect ,short but to the point

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Because not everyone likes to answer the actual question at hand rather than go off on a tirade about peripheral issues that may or may not actually add to the discussion at hand.Okay, I do that too.It seems however, that some threads will consist of:12 posts 3 of which answer the actual question, 4 of them go off topic and the remaining 5 will either be people telling the poster to do a search, or not ask for other people's opinions.

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I gave you a simple answer. Look at what you want, refer to those sites that I mentioned, and come up with a conclusion that fits your needs. What was so complicated about what I said? I dont care if you dont want my opinion. You asked for an opinion with facts (reference to factual sites is a fact in itself), and you SURE did get one.

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