I need better brakes...

hagasan · Feb 13th, 2003, 05:25 PM

Hey guys I need some ideas on how to upgrade my brakes.

It's a 1.6L...the brakes are getting pretty shit. I have to bleed the lines and since I'm going to be "down there" I thought I might as well replace the pads/shoes and the rotors.

I might get some calipers and lines too...

Can I fit SE-R stuff on it...???

How about NX2000?

I tried doing the search bit, but it wasn't really what I was looking for.

Any help would be much appriciated.

Thanx again guys.

PS I'm running stock rims, so please keep the clearance issue in mind.

sno · Feb 13th, 2003, 05:37 PM

i think the nx brakes fit

bahearn · Feb 13th, 2003, 06:02 PM

Try a

in the Suspension and Brakes section on this board. Hell, you don't even need to search, just browse the threads.

hagasan · Feb 13th, 2003, 06:06 PM

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Try a SEARCH in the Suspension and Brakes section on this board. Hell, you don't even need to search, just browse the threads.

...ahem, did you read my WHOLE post...???

Let me refresh your memory...

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I tried doing the search bit, but it wasn't really what I was looking for.

Every post I looked through talks about the SE-R not the standart 1.6L Sentra.

Nice try though...

bahearn · Feb 13th, 2003, 07:06 PM

You didn't read what you found, then. NX is direct bolt-on to SE-R, I want to say the GA16 cars have different hubs but I'm not sure. You better search THAT issue.

Oh, I DID miss the part about stock rims.

No-go with NX brakes.

Man, this smiley thing is a pain in the butt.

hagasan · Feb 13th, 2003, 07:38 PM

I'm pretty sure the GA16 has a diffrent hub...

Hence my problem.

I guess I'm just stuck with some aftermarket rotors and pads.

If anyone has any ideas though, please let me know.

brucek2 · Feb 13th, 2003, 08:51 PM

I bought Stillen metal matrix pads with Brembo OEM Rotors and noticed a HUGE improvement in stopping power. I would highly recommend the pads, no fade, not even from higher speeds.

toolapcfan · Feb 13th, 2003, 08:55 PM

You could always put AD7HA rear discs from an SE-R or NX on, that would certainly help, and put AD18VE's from an SE-R on the front. You'll have to check but I'd think that SE-R brakes all around would fit under your stock 13's, I know for certain that the AD7HA's will as those come on ABS B13's with 13" stock rims. You'll definitely have to swap the rear hubs out when switching from your LT18C rear drums over to the AD7HA discs, and you'll have to check about the fronts to know if the AD18VE's will bolt up to your spindles or not. You'll also want to swap out your master cylinder for the one from an SE-R/NX since that's the one all B13s with 4 wheel discs have. Also using RBF fluid and putting in stainless hoses will help with prevent fade. I used to overpower my XE's brakes all the time, they indeed suck. The best street use pads are OEM Nissan replacements if you can afford them, not sure what they cost.

hagasan · Feb 14th, 2003, 12:08 AM

This is getting a little weird.

Everytime I have a Q's, Tool is the one that always comes through for me.

Clear, concise answers.

Should I just start IM-ing him...and not bother to post alltoghether...??? LOL

Thanks man. I really appriciated it.

And as usual, I'll keep you guys updated.

I propably won't be going with the rear disks but I'm defenitally going to try to put SE-R fronts on it.

Whenever you like it or not...

bahearn · Feb 14th, 2003, 10:04 AM

Tool is a post whore. Not a dig, just a fact.

If the AD22 won't fit the GA16 hubs, the SE-R AD18 won't fit either. Do not do the rear disk swap without putting bigger brakes on the front or you will get unwanted rear brake bias.

I could overpower the AD18 on my SE-R easy enough, I don't think you'll find that a worthwhile upgrade route. Either find aftermarket calipers and rotors that fit your spindles or upgrade the spindles so you can put AD22/FastBrakes on.

toolapcfan · Feb 14th, 2003, 10:06 AM

Quit it, I'm just trying to help, I don't have all the answers that's for damn sure. Not to mention I paid $80 for a damn FSM and I use it every chance I get.

hagasan · Feb 14th, 2003, 11:50 AM

Well...I guess we'll see.

The thing with the SE-R you were talking about though.

SE-R is 2600 pounds. My car is about 2200...

So, just because you were blazing the brakes on the SE-R dosen't mean they won't work on my 1.6L.

That's if I can fit them on though...

BTW: As of right now, I could not located any aftermarket calipers for my car.

bahearn · Feb 14th, 2003, 12:24 PM

Yes, your car weight plays a big part in brake performance. I crew on an ITS SE-R that weighs 2240 pounds and with ad18 and with race pads it outbrakes everything else in its class without fade. Race pads will eat your rotors like candy if you don't get them hot, though, so don't consider that a viable solution for a street car.

SangerSE-R · Feb 14th, 2003, 12:27 PM

the nx brakes won't fit

toolapcfan · Feb 15th, 2003, 12:17 PM

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Race pads will eat your rotors like candy if you don't get them hot, though, so don't consider that a viable solution for a street car.

That's good solid advice. The OEM pad recommendation came from a Kojima article I read awhile back.