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B11/B12/KN13 82-90 chassis B11 (1982-1985 Sentra), B12 (1986-1990 Sentra), and Pulsar

       
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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KYB AGX on Pulsar

The Pulsar definitely needs a new suspension before I can even think about buying the CA18DET engine. I push down on each corner and it bounces about three times before it settles. I know it is possible to put KYB AGXs for the B13 on the KN13 Pulsar, with some minor changes. It has been discussed in other threads, but I just want to itemize here so I can make my order.

What do I need to put the B13 AGXs on the KN13 Pulsar? Is the list below complete, correct, or completely incorrect?

After reading the B12 Nissan Perf. Mag article again, I updated the list below.

KYB AGX for the B13
KN13 strut hats
KN13 strut mount bearing (do I need this for just the fronts, or all four?)
B13 brake lines front and rear
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 09:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The B12 upper mount and bearing will fit nicely on the B13 AGX. Blownb310 posted some pics a while back of B13 AGX's on his B12, do a search. Not sure about the brake line but I don't think blownb310 changed his.

HERE's the link. This pics don't work but blown talks about his mod to keep the B12 brake lines. Maybe send Mike a message and have rehost the pics.
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 09:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The B12 upper mount and bearing will fit nicely on the B13 AGX. Blownb310 posted some pics a while back of B13 AGX's on his B12, do a search. Not sure about the brake line but I don't think blownb310 changed his.
I ran a search and found the thread he had about putting the AGXs on his B12, no pictures were put up though.

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Bending the bracket might be a good way to save a few bucks right now.
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 09:45 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I believe you can use the entire front B13 strut and top mount on your car, but in the rear you need to use the B13 strut body with the B12 top mount. Apparently the struts from a B13 themselves will bolt right in, the only difference is that the mounting brackets that hold the brakelines in place are at a slightly different location.

Have you looked into using Tokicos on your car ? I am running them on my car and the difference was night and day over stock.

I bought mine on Ebay for like $330 shipped to my door. Some of the other groups talk shit on the Tokicos, but I couldn't be happier with my set up right now. My car stays on the road now even in the worst conditions.
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I believe you can use the entire front B13 strut and top mount on your car, but in the rear you need to use the B13 strut body with the B12 top mount. Apparently the struts from a B13 themselves will bolt right in, the only difference is that the mounting brackets that hold the brakelines in place are at a slightly different location.

Have you looked into using Tokicos on your car ? I am running them on my car and the difference was night and day over stock.

I bought mine on Ebay for like $330 shipped to my door. Some of the other groups talk shit on the Tokicos, but I couldn't be happier with my set up right now. My car stays on the road now even in the worst conditions.
I also have the Tokicos on my B12. I like them really well and got them off Ebay for $330-shipped. The AGXs would be nice, though for the adjustability.
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 12:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Have you looked into using Tokicos on your car ? I am running them on my car and the difference was night and day over stock.

I bought mine on Ebay for like $330 shipped to my door. Some of the other groups talk shit on the Tokicos, but I couldn't be happier with my set up right now. My car stays on the road now even in the worst conditions.
Tokicos are nice, there is a reason why Mazda put them on the Mazdaspeed Protege. They are pretty expensive for not being adjustible, but you are paying for quality and reliability. KYBs struts aren't built as well as Tokico, but I like the adea of having adjustible dampening. If the Tokico Illumina's were available for the B13, I would consider them.
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Old Jul 16th, 2004, 01:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Tokicos are nice, there is a reason why Mazda put them on the Mazdaspeed Protege. They are pretty expensive for not being adjustible, but you are paying for quality and reliability. KYBs struts aren't built as well as Tokico, but I like the adea of having adjustible dampening. If the Tokico Illumina's were available for the B13, I would consider them.
Actually I believe that ptuning.com used to have an Illumina kit for the B13 came with matched springs, It's not on their site now, but i know it used to exist.
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I also have the Tokicos on my B12. I like them really well and got them off Ebay for $330-shipped. The AGXs would be nice, though for the adjustability.
But how often would you actually go through the hassle to adjust them? I'd bet 99% of people find thier favorite position and leave em there.
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Old Jul 21st, 2004, 12:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Have you looked into using Tokicos on your car ? I am running them on my car and the difference was night and day over stock.
I'm starting to think that going with the Tokicos is the way to go. Sure they might not be adjustible, but it's not likely I'll be adjusting them much any ways. Other than buying the struts, did you need any other hardware items for the install?
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Old Jul 21st, 2004, 10:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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But how often would you actually go through the hassle to adjust them? I'd bet 99% of people find thier favorite position and leave em there.
I reposted all of the pics at http://www.nissanforums.com/showthread.php?t=18598 guys.

Adjusting the AGX's is easy. You lift the hood and turn the adjusters with the supplied tool. The rears are adjusted by reaching under the car and turning the knob. No hassle at all. It's not like those old Konis, where you had to disassemble the strut to adjust them.
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Old Jul 21st, 2004, 10:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It's not like those old Konis, where you had to disassemble the strut to adjust them.
hey! those things rule for $99 for 4 on ebay.
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I reposted all of the pics at http://www.nissanforums.com/showthread.php?t=18598 guys.

Adjusting the AGX's is easy. You lift the hood and turn the adjusters with the supplied tool. The rears are adjusted by reaching under the car and turning the knob. No hassle at all. It's not like those old Konis, where you had to disassemble the strut to adjust them.
I figured adjusting them is pretty easy, as I have seen them on a few cars at autocrosses in the area. It's just that I'm having a harder time justifying buying those over the Tokicos as far as price is concerned. The AGXs are about $160 more than the Tokicos, and that money could be spent on something else, say, a NISMO cam. That's where my justification comes in.
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Anybody heard of these:
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I have never seen those ones before ? While your toying around with your suspsension, get yourself a front strut brace off Ebay if you haven't already. well worth the money. I also am running advanced tuning's rear strut brace from a B13, but I am not sure if it will fit your car. I read over on the B13 page that Advanced Tuning may be stopping production on them ? It is a very nice piece for $99. probably one of the nicest aftermarket parts I have seen.
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D2's are used alot in endurance racing wheras :Mercedes racing in like lemans ect... you can see the logos on the mercedes racing cars alot should be a very nice suspension
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