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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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sr20vet in a b12

what you all think about installing a sr20vet in a b12 ???
i am getting a sr20vet by next month and i want to start this project . i think it would be the first . everyone telling me that this project is a waste of time because of traction and the Chassis and that the car is too light . if that is the case then i have to buy another car so what car would you all recommend ?? and if it would work with the b12 what i need to do in order for it to work ?? like suspension and tyres ,,,,,,???
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 07:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 08:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That's a VERY broad question. You can do anything, given enough money....

I'd recommend looking at how difficult an SR20DET swap is in a B12, that's going to be the closest swap...
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 08:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That's a VERY broad question. You can do anything, given enough money....

I'd recommend looking at how difficult an SR20DET swap is in a B12, that's going to be the closest swap...


well money is not relly a problem ........my entire paycheck going towards this project ...

sr20det in a b12 has been done allready and no majour probs . people telling me that the sr20vet has too much power for the b12 and i should consider putting the engine in a b14 instead .they tell me shocks and springs are going to be expensive and even with the best traction is going to be a majour problem ....i wondering if to try to prove them wrong .
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 10:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Dude, this is the B12 section. Of course you should do the swap. You would be the first.
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 10:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sr20det in a b12 has been done allready and no majour probs . people telling me that the sr20vet has too much power for the b12 and i should consider putting the engine in a b14 instead .they tell me shocks and springs are going to be expensive and even with the best traction is going to be a majour problem ....i wondering if to try to prove them wrong .
I'm aware it's been done, I've seen one in person, one with LOTS of power. There's nothing in the VET that'll allow you to make a TON more power than the DET. For the same money you'll probably put down a lot more power with the DET than you would in a VET. If the chassis can handle a DET, it can easily handle a VET.
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 10:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Has everyone forgotten that boost_boy is running a 300+ hp CA18DET in his B12? If that's not enough horsies, let's not forget he's currently building a 600+ hp CA18DET also slated to power a B12. Anyone telling you the VET will be too much for a B12 is just blowing smoke up your wazoo. More likely they really don't know what they're talking about, just making unedjumacated statements.
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Old Apr 26th, 2004, 11:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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hey don't forget Charles with his b12 SR20DET with 300+,and Nismodriver 400+ b12SR20DET.


not to say the b12 has 200-250 Lbs.less than a b14's GVW. I think justin has a very good point.
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Old Apr 27th, 2004, 12:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm aware it's been done, I've seen one in person, one with LOTS of power. There's nothing in the VET that'll allow you to make a TON more power than the DET. For the same money you'll probably put down a lot more power with the DET than you would in a VET. If the chassis can handle a DET, it can easily handle a VET.



hmmmmm ok then ...

what suspension upgrade you all think would be needed ??
i was planning on using the kyb shocks and the eibach springs.......and probably the b14 -4 wheel disc brakes?????? .any suggestions ???
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Old Apr 27th, 2004, 03:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
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It's more headache than it's worth. Here's why;

Who the fuck are you going to get to help you tune it? Nobody knows about these engines. You will be all alone when its time to do wiring harness. You will be the one to have to trouble shoot and find out that you need a USDM distro, and a JDM thermostat, and a US fuel rail and a JDM... get the point?

Unless the whole point is to be original, why not just make mad power with a proven formula? Done in a way that you can get input and feedback should things not go perfectly (which they wont')
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Old Apr 27th, 2004, 01:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think people say no to the swap because they don't wanna face the fact that a B12 has ass-whooping capability. Nothing against you Bennitto.
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Old Apr 27th, 2004, 01:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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^None taken. I just don't understand all the excitement over VET. Ooh it's got turbo and variable timing on the intake cam. wow. Who gives a flying hoot?

I think what people are saying to him is that B14 is a lot stiffer chassis. Having owned and caned the ass off of one I can say they are right. Better off the shelf suspension options too.

However no FWD SR gearbox is going to hold onto a VET engine for long. Make sure to budget an extra $50 to get the case welded, and $3000 for a PAR gearset.

If I had a good B12 stateside and cash in hand, I would look to wrap it around a bad-ass CA18DET set-up.
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Old Apr 27th, 2004, 01:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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just get the det... so much easier to find parts...
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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 09:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well, he's already getting the VET, and its very original and I see no reason why he shouldn't go through it. Yes it's going to be a royal pain in the ass but it will be worth it. Although I do agree look forward to pulling $ out of the a$$ for the transmission. As for suspension, there is a lot of possibilties that these ppl here dont really konw enough about. Such as coil overs and adjustable shocks and what not. and yeah, 4 wheel discs would end up being a must if you're going to use the engine to its full capacity.
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Old Apr 28th, 2004, 09:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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If I had a good B12 stateside and cash in hand, I would look to wrap it around a bad-ass CA18DET set-up.

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