When I was looking up the part number of the clutch cable for my friend's 88 B11, it appeared that the 88 Sentra came with a TBI E16 and a carbed E16. Am I correct? What was the point of offering two versions of the same engine? I know someone here can explain it to me.
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First of all, the B11 wasn't produced after 86, so you were looking at B12 engines, but to answer your question, the E16S (carb) was made to meet california emmisions requirements, and the TBI was made to produce more power. But from a technology and marketing standpoint, this was the model that made the transition from carburetors to EFI via TBI...so it seems logical that for one model they would offer both versions of the motor to "test the waters" and offer something for old skoolers and new skoolers...i guess feul injection works better (duh)
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Originally posted by BeEleven the E16S (carb) was made to meet california emmisions requirements, and the TBI was made to produce more power.
That's odd that they would use a carbed engine for the stricter emissions. Weird.
Thanks for the info. I'm kinda fascinated now--I loved my B13, which was a pretty simple car, but the B12 is even more straightforward. I'd kinda like to get one just to toy with and "experiment" on. They have a certain appeal.
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Ha...you think the B12 is simple? Wait till you see a B11...its basically a really fat gerbil and an exercise wheel with TONS of gear reduction...thats where those big hp numbers come from.
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Originally posted by BeEleven Ha...you think the B12 is simple? Wait till you see a B11...its basically a really fat gerbil and an exercise wheel with TONS of gear reduction...thats where those big hp numbers come from.
Originally posted by BeEleven But from a technology and marketing standpoint, this was the model that made the transition from carburetors to EFI via TBI...so it seems logical that for one model they would offer both versions of the motor to "test the waters" and offer something for old skoolers and new skoolers...i guess feul injection works better (duh)
...i understand what you're saying but to me it sounds like another one of nissans stupidity things cause they had efi long before '87. and they did use tbi on cali cars with the pulsar cause the pulsar only came with the tbi as far as i know, someone correct me if i'm wrong cause that means my resources once again are wrong:P but yeah back to the point, the CA engines had efi for a few years before so i can't figure out why they would even have carbs or tbi cause we all know that the mpfi is better. then again nissan hasn't always made sense like why did they make dohc on the CA16 and 18 but not the 20...and no turbo 20 either cause that would have been fun.
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Ya, lets make this a Nissan USA Marketing bashing thread...until 2001, we had the worst technology Nissan could produce...No GTiR, Skylines, T28's, Attessa, SV-series...not even cool commercials...jeez.
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Originally posted by Gsolo ...i understand what you're saying but to me it sounds like another one of nissans stupidity things cause they had efi long before '87.
Maybe they just had some carbed engines leftover from prior years and needed to get rid of them. That's why you have all these "limited edition" model Sentras over the years--Nissan had leftover parts from higher trim models that they needed to get rid of, so they stuck them on lower models and callled them "limited editions".
Originally posted by JWolfe Maybe they just had some carbed engines leftover from prior years and needed to get rid of them. That's why you have all these "limited edition" model Sentras over the years--Nissan had leftover parts from higher trim models that they needed to get rid of, so they stuck them on lower models and callled them "limited editions".
could be...i dunno...sometimes i wonder if nissan really had any good management in the U.S . And i'm not dissin the cars, i wouldn't do that, but i think as a company nissan could have done better...and still could by bringing over the good stuff like say a few skylines and bluebirds...i wouldn't mind having an awd pulsar gtir either
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Originally posted by WMengineering i got all excited i thought we had the real JW on our forums
Well, you're not the first to make that mistake.
I guess I should find another screen name, but I've been using this one for several years now, and it's just a contraction of my real name, so it's not like I'm trying to impersonate Jim Wolf.
My dad's name, however, is Jim Wolfe.
Originally posted by BeEleven Ya, lets make this a Nissan USA Marketing bashing thread...until 2001, we had the worst technology Nissan could produce...No GTiR, Skylines, T28's, Attessa, SV-series...not even cool commercials...jeez.
Didnt you see that cool commercial back in the 80's where they rolled a bowling ball under a Nissan PU?
Don't kid yourself. Sentra is a base model car for Nissan. At the same time they produced B12's, They were making cutting edge Z cars. FWD was still a rather new technology (for Nissan) as was EFI. All of my old Datsuns had points under the cap that I custom built to electronic ignition using a transistor a couple caps and a resistor. Now they all use IC's for the ignition.
Back in the day, it seemed a 100k motor was usually on it's last leg. Nowadays 300k seems quite common, even on a 4 banger. Shees, the coup has 276K on it.
The 87 sedan had a 16s and my 87 coup has a 16i.
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...and no turbo 20 either cause that would have been fun.
like say a few skylines and bluebirds...i wouldn't mind having an awd pulsar gtir either
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