B12 SR20DE Swap Manual - Page 4

boost_boy · Sep 29th, 2003, 08:56 AM

The B12's Arms are just as competent as the B13's and when using anything from the B13, one had better make sure that it measures up to the exactness of the B12's components or you will be in for a rude awakening.

Red_Coupe · Sep 29th, 2003, 01:04 PM

So how about that bracket , the one charles tells us about in his
write up. i think his friend from the netherlands had the right idea.
sense you don't mess with much ,as the suspention goes.less headach will be a plus here!!!

xXB12RacerXx · Oct 1st, 2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by hybrid DET
Yes, use the B13 cable and ebrake lever for the rear disc brake conversion.

actually the B12 e-brake lever works perfectly, the B13's is a bit shorter and doesnt mount in the cab right. the e-brake lines fit right in too.

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Originally posted by hybrid DET
You can secure the b13 cable to the bottom of the b12's belly pay with a series of sheet metal screws in the crucial places and then wrap them up with zip ties to keep them from hanging too low.

this is what i will more than likley do, that or have mini brakets made for them

Nismodriver · Oct 3rd, 2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by xXB12RacerXx
actually the B12 e-brake lever works perfectly, the B13's is a bit shorter and doesnt mount in the cab right. the e-brake lines fit right in too.

this is what i will more than likley do, that or have mini brakets made for them

In an effort not to give incorrect information, I have disassembled both E-brake levers for comparison. The bracket from the B12 lever has holes that are larger than the b13 emergency cable ends. This can be secured using zip ties or something, but honestly, if you insist on using the B12 lever, simply remove the 10m nut and bend back the clip. remove the cable and correct end from the b13 lever and install it on the b12 lever. If you wish to use the whole b13 lever, simply bolt it to the exisiting rear bolt hole. then drill one hole for the front bolt and run a bolt through w/ a lock washer. This is just for any of those interested, as B12Racer has chosen his method.

John

boost_boy · Oct 3rd, 2003, 08:34 PM

I found it to be easier to just throw in the B13's brake lever, take a self tapping bolt to the offset hole and call it a day. I looked at the B12's years ago and it just seem like a hassle. There are a few more differences between the 2 levers that would prohibit you from actually doing a straight-forward swap over. I hope I'm not wrong as well

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boost_boy · Oct 3rd, 2003, 08:41 PM

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This can be secured using zip ties or something,

BTW, that's just beyond ghetto and totally unacceptable for advise to people who want to do this. Hey John, I know you aren't the 1st ones to mention this and I'm not even tripping about it, but there have been waaaaaayyyy too many times where I've depended on my emergency brake to assist and I'll be damned if I'm going to bestow that much responsibility on some tie-ties. But hey, to each his own

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hybrid DET · Oct 3rd, 2003, 11:53 PM

My ebrake cable is mounted to the bottom of my b12 with sheet metal screws. I used zip ties NOT as a man source of attachment but to keep the cables from hanging down too low in certain places or to route them in a certain direction. Boost boy is right, I wouldnt trust zip ties anymore than that either.

Nismodriver · Oct 3rd, 2003, 11:59 PM

Sorry guys, I wasn't being literal about using zip ties to hold the cables to the lever. I was kinda bein a smarty pants. But honestly I think that is the only feasible way of making it work, as someone insists on doing. Either way, I think everyone got my point

John

Myetball · Oct 4th, 2003, 12:29 PM

Zip ties are quite strong and have a pretty high strength against stretching but it seems if you are using them to hold the ends of your brake cable they will get pinched between the cable stop and the lever. Even the strongest zip tie can be cut in a millisecond, they aren't desinged to withstand crushing force.

Webfoot · Oct 4th, 2003, 07:02 PM

Thanks for your input guys. We'll have to look this one over again. When we retroed the brake, it seemed to just all fit together. But I think you're right about the cable ends. We didnt look that close. Thanks for flagging that one.

Oh, I love zip ties. The one I used to pull the motor is called Deltec. It comes in 50' spools with a bag of connecting heads. Used it to strap a blown muffler together. Pulled a car out the ditch. Mostly use it to support big monster phone cables to the guy wire.

Red_Coupe · Oct 6th, 2003, 08:20 PM

The cluch cable for the SE-R should fit right in. I think you don't have to even touch the petals.

the petals for both cars are very little diffrence. I don't know if you could be safe to say almost plug and play

xXB12RacerXx · Oct 7th, 2003, 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by red_devil
The cluch cable for the SE-R should fit right in. I think you don't have to even touch the petals.

the petals for both cars are very little diffrence. I don't know if you could be safe to say almost plug and play

Well b/c of the drastic curve difference of the se-r's pedal I was unable to get it to fit...I'll write more on this later.

Red_Coupe · Oct 7th, 2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by xXB12RacerXx
Well b/c of the drastic curve difference of the se-r's pedal I was unable to get it to fit...I'll write more on this later.

No you should be able to use the B12 petals and hook up the cables,etc right up..

Nismodriver · Oct 7th, 2003, 07:21 PM

Or if you don't feel like swapping the cable, you simply just move the throttle cable bracket one bolt hole to the left. Mine worked fine like that for years.

John

xXB12RacerXx · Oct 7th, 2003, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by red_devil
No you should be able to use the B12 petals and hook up the cables,etc right up..

Yeah, that's what I thought, but go ahead and try it...if it works, let us know!...maybe if you used the B12 inner bracket...Anyways, I'm past that, but your going to have to let us know if you can pull something off...