AD18VB vs. AD18VE - Page 5

Gsolo · Feb 14th, 2004, 07:52 PM

are the abs brakes bigger??

RockyB · Feb 15th, 2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gsolo

are the abs brakes bigger??

Yes, I believe the abs brakes are AD22VF.
Rocky

Gsolo · Feb 15th, 2004, 05:34 PM

I was under the impression that AD22VF could be ABS or nonABS but that the ABS brakes were bigger ??
Also, would I benefit any by putting a bigger booster in without doing any other brake changes?

RockyB · Feb 15th, 2004, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gsolo

I was under the impression that AD22VF could be ABS or nonABS but that the ABS brakes were bigger ??
Also, would I benefit any by putting a bigger booster in without doing any other brake changes?

The ad22vf where on the nx2000 with abs. These are bigger then the ad18's. The ad18ve are on the sentra's and nx's without abs. By using the bigger booster, it helps aid the force of what you have to apply to the pedal to stop the car. For example, if you had bigger brakes put on and used the proper master and kept the smaller booster, you would say have to push 2-3x harder to stop the car in a quick stop. The MC helps to keep the proportion of the brakes(stopping the fronts before stopping the backs). The booster uses vacuum to assist in the force to which is applied by the pedal. Then calipers and pads and rotors are self-explanitory. I hope this helps.
Rocky

Gsolo · Feb 15th, 2004, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockyB

The ad22vf where on the nx2000 with abs. These are bigger then the ad18's. The ad18ve are on the sentra's and nx's without abs. By using the bigger booster, it helps aid the force of what you have to apply to the pedal to stop the car. For example, if you had bigger brakes put on and used the proper master and kept the smaller booster, you would say have to push 2-3x harder to stop the car in a quick stop. The MC helps to keep the proportion of the brakes(stopping the fronts before stopping the backs). The booster uses vacuum to assist in the force to which is applied by the pedal. Then calipers and pads and rotors are self-explanitory. I hope this helps.
Rocky

I knew all that about brakes

i was just wondering if anyone had swapped boosters without upgrading there brakes. I know it would make less effort and make the brakes more touchy but would that be a good thing or bad thing in this case, cause i can see how to touchy is bad. My fiances Geo after I did brake work on it stops nice on pavement but on frost and ice you can't even touch the brake pedal.

Marty01 · Jan 5th, 2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_Coupe

Also I heared that drilled ,and sloted roters are not needed for street use. Simple ,because of the fact is your not drifting,or
on a road course. so the brakes are not going to get hot.(hence the slotted,and drilled part.) right?
So the lots of money you tie up in your cars brakes like most street people is not needed? true or not??well let me know if I'm on the right path..thx RED

for driller rotors.. these were conceived with racing in mind.. holes keeps things lighter.. simply put.. i wouldnt use these on the streets myself.. because holes in metal makes it prone to cracking which wouldnt be very good considering these are rotors..

slotted rotors.. these were made to allow the gases that occur when braking hard to escape and thus let you pads touch only the disc.. less fade... i personnally would swap stock for slotted rotors from brembo, power slot, or anyone else as they are NOT prone to cracking hence more reliable while still giving you more protection against brake fade..

in your shoes.. i would at least upgrade the drums to discs... and maybe even slotted discs all the way around.. just in case you decide to try out a solo or 2

Red_Coupe · Jan 6th, 2005, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty01

for driller rotors.. these were conceived with racing in mind.. holes keeps things lighter.. simply put.. i wouldnt use these on the streets myself.. because holes in metal makes it prone to cracking which wouldnt be very good considering these are rotors..

slotted rotors.. these were made to allow the gases that occur when braking hard to escape and thus let you pads touch only the disc.. less fade... i personnally would swap stock for slotted rotors from brembo, power slot, or anyone else as they are NOT prone to cracking hence more reliable while still giving you more protection against brake fade..

in your shoes.. i would at least upgrade the drums to discs... and maybe even slotted discs all the way around.. just in case you decide to try out a solo or 2

All read have upgraded to the AD18VB frts, and the rear discs next summer. thx for the info.

Chip-

Sixways · Feb 23rd, 2005, 08:04 PM

So if you punk sentra owners

can steal the brakes from our pulsars, where do we go for brakes?

I'm looking into buying a 87 pulsar SE and I know that you all said that the rotors are bigger on a 88-90 pulsar but dose the xe/se matter? because I have a 89 xe with a bad engine so if i could salvage the brakes for a little better proforance that'd be nice

Last one I swear, the nx2000 brakes are bigger yes? dose any know by how much?

Sorry for bringing up old threads, but I really want to know.

Myetball · Feb 23rd, 2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixways

So if you punk sentra owners

can steal the brakes from our pulsars, where do we go for brakes?

I'm looking into buying a 87 pulsar SE and I know that you all said that the rotors are bigger on a 88-90 pulsar but dose the xe/se matter? because I have a 89 xe with a bad engine so if i could salvage the brakes for a little better proforance that'd be nice

Last one I swear, the nx2000 brakes are bigger yes? dose any know by how much?

Sorry for bringing up old threads, but I really want to know.

The XE uses the CL18B brakes, same as sentra. If you want to upgrade the SE brakes go with the AD22 (NX2000), they are hoooj in comparison to the AD18. Need bigger than stock wheels to run the AD22 though. I think all this was covered somewhere in this thread. Do a search on AD22 or AD22V or AD22VF.

Sixways · Feb 24th, 2005, 02:45 AM

Alright thanks. I just wanted to be sure before I go ripping into the brake system of some junkyard heap. 15's should clear right

I've herd of some nx2k guys using the brakes off of later model maxams or some thing. would I be able to use those too? I don't know what kind they are though.

AVERAGE · Feb 24th, 2005, 09:03 AM

15s will be fine

Gsolo · Feb 25th, 2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixways

Alright thanks. I just wanted to be sure before I go ripping into the brake system of some junkyard heap. 15's should clear right

I've herd of some nx2k guys using the brakes off of later model maxams or some thing. would I be able to use those too? I don't know what kind they are though.

if they can use them then i'm sure with some work you can use them. But find out what maxima's and do some research. open a new thread and let us know so we can dwelve into it as well cause if bigger maxima brakes fit nx2ks then they could filter down to fitting sentras. although i can't see maxima brakes being any bigger than ad22vf

Red_Coupe · Feb 27th, 2005, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gsolo

if they can use them then i'm sure with some work you can use them. But find out what maxima's and do some research. open a new thread and let us know so we can dwelve into it as well cause if bigger maxima brakes fit nx2ks then they could filter down to fitting sentras. although i can't see maxima brakes being any bigger than ad22vf

well I know that the 240's and the 300zx clans swap braking systems . But with this it's a 5lug instead of a 4 lug. so u prob. have to use a booster,knuckles, amd all the goodies. the 300,and max use almost the same set up IIRC.

To promote such drastic things, you would have to have a sentra on crack 10x over to need such braking power. I would lean to saying no need for such things. the AD22VF
is more the find to do it's job for the sentra,NX clan.

Gsolo · Feb 28th, 2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Red_Coupe

well I know that the 240's and the 300zx clans swap braking systems . But with this it's a 5lug instead of a 4 lug. so u prob. have to use a booster,knuckles, amd all the goodies. the 300,and max use almost the same set up IIRC.

To promote such drastic things, you would have to have a sentra on crack 10x over to need such braking power. I would lean to saying no need for such things. the AD22VF
is more the find to do it's job for the sentra,NX clan.

it would be unique though if someone did fudge them on

mille-16i · Jul 30th, 2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Coupe

well I know that the 240's and the 300zx clans swap braking systems . But with this it's a 5lug instead of a 4 lug. so u prob. have to use a booster,knuckles, amd all the goodies. the 300,and max use almost the same set up IIRC.

You do not need to swap over to the five lug most people do it for the wheel selection being much larger than that of the weird 4 lug pattern of a 240 it is not like the B12 4 on 100 or the B11 4 on 112.5 or something like that. Aslo all you need is the rotors (redrilled if not swaping to 5 lug) calipers and backing plate since the 240 is factory 4 wheel disc in the rear the E brake is diff.

I have a question we have all been over the front brakes and know what is what props to myet good info. But I want rear discs and have a ? on that now no B12's came factory with rear disc in the states but they did in europe and japan. Now if I could get my hands on a set of rear Sunny spindles could I then just bolt up B13 SE-R rear discs or say NX2K rears. I have read many threads about custom fabing and this and that and it frankly scares me to think of fabbing a brake system your just a weak weld away from a bad trip into the back side of an SUV. Thanks for any help that you can give also if anyone has the nissan part number for that rear spindle please do share.