Suspension mods cheap. Help!

Trefrog · May 28th, 2003, 03:25 PM

My car needs some suspension help. I did this on the cheap with sme rectangular rubber bushings. They keep popping out and bounceing down thre road. Where can I find some Nascar type
2" coils?

xXB12RacerXx · May 28th, 2003, 04:34 PM

you mean you want to drop yoru ride 2"?

Trefrog · May 28th, 2003, 05:15 PM

no drop. just better handling. Nascar ueses these donut type 2"
rubber thigs. They thread in on the springs and stiffen up stuff.

xXB12RacerXx · May 28th, 2003, 05:16 PM

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT...BUT I WOUDL LIKE TO KNOW...

fastpakr · May 28th, 2003, 05:19 PM

Hmm...I'm not familiar with them on cars, but thread in coil spacers on trucks have a terrible reputation for doing exactly what you're describing (which creates potentially dangerous situations on the road).

Trefrog · May 28th, 2003, 05:28 PM

How so dangerous? Like the thing coming loose and bounceing down the road. That is what happens to the 2" rectangular ones. The ring type have grooves and are set well into the springs. This stiffens the ride and shortens strut movement. Imagine a round @' rubber circle with grooves in top and bottom, they are threaded onto the springs when the car is jacked up.

fastpakr · May 28th, 2003, 05:35 PM

Again, that was coming from a truck application where it was being used to raise the ride height. Supposedly (I have no intention of using them so I've never seen this first hand), they can come out with significant force, and also create severe handling disturbances in the process. Objects moving at high velocity plus sudden suspension failure is enough to keep me away. On the other hand, the failure mode in a car may be significantly less severe.

Myetball · May 28th, 2003, 05:58 PM

I've seen those in some parts stores. There's several types of spring boosters/stiffeners.

1. Screw in aluminum blocks to stiffen springs (I have these on the back of my Grand Am and they work great)
2. Notched rubber blocks (rectangular). Usually have notches on all four sides. Short side used to stiffen springs, long side used to raise ride height.
3. Bolt and block setup. Can either be used to stiffen/raise spring or to compress/lower.
4. Rubber rings. One type has groove on ones side and is placed under spring to raise it. The other type has grooves on both sides and is placed in the middle to stiffen spring.

I think I saw the double grooved rubber rings at Advance Auto...but it may have been the single groove.

xXB12RacerXx · May 28th, 2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by Myetball
I've seen those in some parts stores. There's several types of spring boosters/stiffeners.

1. Screw in aluminum blocks to stiffen springs (I have these on the back of my Grand Am and they work great)
2. Notched rubber blocks (rectangular). Usually have notches on all four sides. Short side used to stiffen springs, long side used to raise ride height.
3. Bolt and block setup. Can either be used to stiffen/raise spring or to compress/lower.
4. Rubber rings. One type has groove on ones side and is placed under spring to raise it. The other type has grooves on both sides and is placed in the middle to stiffen spring.

I think I saw the double grooved rubber rings at Advance Auto...but it may have been the single groove.

so which is best?

Myetball · May 28th, 2003, 10:39 PM

Depends on the springs you have and what you want to do. For stiffening, the double groove rubber ring is probably best. The others have a tendancy to rotate around the spring and you can end up with both stiffeners on the same side of the spring.

I've never used the bolt/block setup...don't have any experience with them but they always looked cheesy. However, if you want to lower your car an inch or so for around $10, the bolt and block will do it.

xXB12RacerXx · May 28th, 2003, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Myetball
Depends on the springs you have and what you want to do. For stiffening, the double groove rubber ring is probably best. The others have a tendancy to rotate around the spring and you can end up with both stiffeners on the same side of the spring.

I've never used the bolt/block setup...don't have any experience with them but they always looked cheesy. However, if you want to lower your car an inch or so for around $10, the bolt and block will do it.

myetball, does this make handling better? if so , what do i want to look for when i go to the parts store? the double groove rubber ring? is there a different name it goes by?

Myetball · May 29th, 2003, 12:44 AM

It does basically the same thang a swaybar upgrade does, reduces body roll slightly. It is only a minor upgrade. It also will stiffen the ride.

On my Grand Am I have them only in the back. I was getting too much body roll from the ass end. I installed two screw in aluminum blocks on each spring and it has made quite a difference. Cornering is much improved and much flatter.

xXB12RacerXx · May 29th, 2003, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by Myetball
It does basically the same thang a swaybar upgrade does, reduces body roll slightly. It is only a minor upgrade. It also will stiffen the ride.

On my Grand Am I have them only in the back. I was getting too much body roll from the ass end. I installed two screw in aluminum blocks on each spring and it has made quite a difference. Cornering is much improved and much flatter.

ok im sold, what do i ask for at the parts store? what ones do i want? if i didnt want to lower it, what ones do ii want? if i did want to lwoer it what would i want?

Myetball · May 29th, 2003, 05:51 AM

You want to calm down a bit first

. It really depends. I used to have the rubber blocks in the back of my B11 and they would never stay in place...supposed to stay opposite one another...always ended up with both blocks on same side of spring. I was using the short side since I didn't want to raise the car.

I'd look for the rubber ring type or the aluminum blocks that twist in place.

xXB12RacerXx · May 29th, 2003, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Myetball
You want to calm down a bit first .

LOL!! :P

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Originally posted by Myetball
I'd look for the rubber ring type or the aluminum blocks that twist in place.

so your saying the double rubber ring deal things huh?...do they have a name?

thanks myetball!