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B11/B12/KN13 82-90 chassis B11 (1982-1985 Sentra), B12 (1986-1990 Sentra), and Pulsar

       
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Simple question: apart from the hydraulic clutch difference, will the CA16DE tranny fit the CA18DE?? Any differences in the axles or hubs?
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 05:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Any differences in the axles or hubs?
Sorry I don't know the answer, but I do believe the CA20E trans out of a Stanza is stronger and will bolt up to the CA18de
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 09:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Simple question: apart from the hydraulic clutch difference, will the CA16DE tranny fit the CA18DE??
Yes it will.
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Any differences in the axles or hubs?
You'll need the axles that comes from a CA18DE and you can not use the stanzas axles as their hubs are bigger. Hubs are the same for the CA series, just different axles "Period".
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 10:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Great, thanks boostboy. Looks like I've finally got a line on an 88 pulsar with a CA18DE/manual but I'm thinking I'd rather have the lower final drive from the CA16DE for the kind of driving I'll be doing. If I go through the trouble of swapping clutch actuation over, do you know whether the gears/final drives can be switched from the CA16 to the CA18?
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 11:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If I go through the trouble of swapping clutch actuation over, do you know whether the gears/final drives can be switched from the CA16 to the CA18?
Not swappable, but nissan sells gears for both trannies if you can get in touch with them!
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 11:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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OK, sorta figurer that was the case, it would be too easy otherwise.

Boost_boy, I just saw in the thread from WMengineering (great reply BTW) that you said the CA18 tranny is much stronger than the 16 so maybe I'll just stick with that. Also, that wheel spin is an issue with a bunch of horsepower...no kidding. But on that note, I thought you had said in one of your previous posts that you had a phantom grip LSD installed. Is that the case or was I dreaming? If so, how does it work and any problems with it?? Thanks muchly,

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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 11:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I still have the tranny with phantom grip block in the diff, but now I have new gearboxes that both have helical limited slip differentials
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 11:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Where did you get those, and/or what are they from?? I'm setting the car up as a rally car so I really need a LSD of some sort.
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Old Apr 30th, 2003, 11:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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They are hybrid set-ups and kind of my own personal set-ups. The Phantom grip came from phantom grip itself and costs around $299.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 12:01 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Did you actually drive the Phantom Grip at all? Did it help much?
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Old May 1st, 2003, 09:50 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, it did what it needed to do, I guess! The real deal is always better, but I never had a chance to take that car to the track while it was making 300+hp, so I don't know what kind of times it would have posted.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 11:07 AM   #12 (permalink)
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ok so the ca16de is closer ratio? correct?. this is what i plan on doing,so you tell me

1.) automatic to manual transaxle, if the ca16de tranny is cable mount, shouldnt this be easier for me to swap into the b12
2.) i have to take the bottom end apart basically and add the 88 pistons to either the 89-90 motor for the better CR, but i am stuck with the crap 89 year engine due to caliornia smog reguations.

so, if i am going to use a differnt tranny anyways(sell me on the ca16de now) then i would start assembling my own mismatched junk yard motor like this weekend( i love junkyard shopping!)
ok so this leads me to my next question. are there any other parts that are benifically interchangeable amongst model yrs./varients i should be aware of?
(im just trying to do my home work guys, i have come to the conclusion this makes projects go as easy and smoothly as posible.)
thanks guys, i really really appriciate everyones help,
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Old May 1st, 2003, 11:21 AM   #13 (permalink)
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1.) automatic to manual transaxle, if the ca16de tranny is cable mount, shouldnt this be easier for me to swap into the b12
The CA16DE's tranny would bprobably be good for autocrossing and lightning fast 60ft times as the gears are way shorter than the CA18's. It's cable mechanism will fit directly into the B12's chasis as long as you use the CA16's cable. Nothing wrong with junkyard shopping, but you can probably get those pistons cheap from nissan as well. I have turbo rods and pistons if interested for the sum of $200 complete and ready to install. I also have a manifold as well and few other pieces that are laying around collecting dust. Smog sucks! They did away with emissions tests years ago so now everyone does whatever the heck they want to with their engines. The CA16DE and the CA18DE have different parts such as tranny, axles, transmission mounts, shifter and rails, engine's wire harness, computer, tranny mounting bracket, clutch set up to include actuators (hydraulic -vs-cable) and intake hoses whereas the ca16's intake hose is pretty clean cut and the CA18's (auto) has a resonator and is more rounded and ugly looking, but everything else is pretty much the same.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 04:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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boost or anyone else, you wouldnt happen to have the gear ratios of both the ca18de/16 handy would you? id like to compare. thanks.
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Old May 1st, 2003, 11:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Mike, a copy of the Nissan pulsar shop manual is posted at the link below and it has the info in it (page 285 I think it was)... the only problem is you can't really make out the numbers! I wish whomever scanned this used a slightly better resolution then it would be really useful. None the less, I don't have the numbers but if you have access to 87/88 vintage car mags like Road and Track, they have them. I did have them a couple of years back when I first looked into this swap but I have successfully managed to loose those issues...piss me off!

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