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B11/B12/KN13 82-90 chassis B11 (1982-1985 Sentra), B12 (1986-1990 Sentra), and Pulsar

       
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Upgrade 4-speed to 5-speed? (B-12)

I read the thread on putting a manual into an automatic B12, and i was wondering how much easier (and cheaper) it would be to put a 5 speed into a 4-speed?

I do alot of highway miles everyday (~65 Mph) and im at atleast 3500 rpm the entire time so im thinking a 5speed would save me some gas money in the end.

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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 09:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it would be alot easier. my dad's B12 came with a 5spd box when we bought it and all the mounts look the same as the 4spd.
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 11:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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that is definitely encouraging, hopefully i can find some more information
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 11:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I read the thread on putting a manual into an automatic B12, and i was wondering how much easier (and cheaper) it would be to put a 5 speed into a 4-speed?

I do alot of highway miles everyday (~65 Mph) and im at atleast 3500 rpm the entire time so im thinking a 5speed would save me some gas money in the end.

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My B12 sounds like a swarm of pissed of hornets when I get it up to around 75. I have thought about the 4 speed to 5 upgrade as well, but i don't want to deal with the 5th gear pop out issue.
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Old Mar 8th, 2007, 11:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My B12 sounds like a swarm of pissed of hornets when I get it up to around 75. I have thought about the 4 speed to 5 upgrade as well, but i don't want to deal with the 5th gear pop out issue.
Haha yeah, same here, and i have no muffler...just a pipe from the engine to the back of the car...so i know what you mean...

I havent heard of the 5th gear issue, but im sure its better than having my ears ringing all through Trig...
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Old Mar 9th, 2007, 10:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yeah, my exhaust off too..till i get a whole exhaust system built. i deninately doing de 5spd upgrade sometime this year. when i drive my B12 and den my dad's, i notice a difference in performance from 4th gear onward.
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Old Mar 10th, 2007, 11:10 AM   #7 (permalink)
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5th gear popout is a common problem. If you do a search you will find many discussions on the topic.
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Old Mar 13th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi, I thought I'd throw in a few pointers...

I have sucessfuly done the swap from automatic to manual. Origonally swapped in a 5 speed, but due to the 5th gear pop-out problem eventally the 5 speed chewed itself apart. I next swapped in a 4 speed manual, and it has been in there for over a year now with no problems.
The transmission mounts for the automatic, 5 speed manual, and 4 speed manual are all different. If you put in a 5 speed you will need the mounts from the donor car as well as part of the transmission mount that the battery tray bolts to also. The 4 speed manual transmission can use all of the same mounts as the 5 speed EXCEPT for the mount that connects from the back of the transmission, to the mount under the battery tray, because the one for the 5 speed is too long to bolt to the end of the 4 speed casing.
The CV axles from the automatic will fit the other transmissions, but are smaller in diameter. If you are going to get new CV axles any time soon I would suggest going with the ones from the manual transmission, because they are bigger and stronger.

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Old Mar 14th, 2007, 09:53 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i did a auto to maunal swap too as well. and yes, it's true about tha 4 and 5 spd mounts....thats if the 4speed box is from the 1.3l. i have both boxes, and the 1.5l box is longer than the 1.3l box. when i had to put in the 1.3l box for a short while, since i had to get some welding done to my 1.5 box, i realise the mount was longer, so we used a longer bolt and some spacers and washers to get a tight fit ( dont think it would be reconmended but hey....) so i think my 1.5l g-box mount should fit the 5spd box. naturally, the 1.3l gearing is shorter than the 1.5l's, it's a pain on the highway. i really wanna try a 5spd box, but i'll keep the 4spd as a spare.
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Old Oct 4th, 2007, 02:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ok, after much waiting, I have found a VERY cheap deal on a 5-speed from an '86 sentra. Its not new, but only 96k on it. Is this going to work or do I need a closer year?
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Old Oct 4th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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it should work
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Old Oct 8th, 2007, 11:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What year is your B12?
If it is an 89-90 it will not work, because the '86 has an E series engine and 89-90 has the GA series engine.
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Old Oct 29th, 2007, 12:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I don't know which mounts you say are different from the 4 to 5 spped, my car came with the 4 speed and I picked up a new 5 speed and my mechanic swapped it right in, didn't need to pick up any other new parts and he never said anything about anything not lining up properly.
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