hey guys i was thinking of getting a 15" kicker for my lucino.
it's 1000 watts and ive got a 800w kenwood amplifier.
my friend's got the same woofer that i would like to get and he has a 600w kenwood amp hooked onto it. this woofer is loud as hell and the base just drives me crazy on a 600w amp! what will it do on a 800w amp?!
tell me what you guys think.
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The L7's will get very very very loud. Depending on how high the gain is set will be how loud it is. Dont get crazy with the gain, as it is not a volume knob and you can damage your sub if you have it to high and have the sub clipping.
Last edited by Punkrocka436 : Jan 20th, 2004 at 11:52 AM.
If you want a good 15" sub, not the cheap kicker garbage, look at the Elemental Designs e15a.22, or Oz Audio Me15.2 (or Me15.4).
Also if youre gonna get a real amplifier which delivers clean power (<0.03% distortion), and give your Kicker (or the likes) sub 700-800W RMS, you're gonna kill that piece...
my $0.02
If you want a good 15" sub, not the cheap kicker garbage, look at the Elemental Designs e15a.22, or Oz Audio Me15.2 (or Me15.4).
Also if youre gonna get a real amplifier which delivers clean power (<0.03% distortion), and give your Kicker (or the likes) sub 700-800W RMS, you're gonna kill that piece...
my $0.02
Ummm...do you have any idea what ur talking about? "Cheap Kicker Garbage"? "Gonna kill that piece"? Maybe you should try before you speak. Kicker is very far from cheap garbage. Its a very good SPL sub, the L7 isnt too far back from the W7 for a lower price. eD are also very good subs, but they are more into SQ than SPL...I have 2 Kicker L5's which are even lower model then the L7 and I have them in a big ported box powered with the 800.2, giving them 200 Watts under RMS a piece and Im not saying they are the best out there, but with my proffesional install I will put them up against MANY 12" subs out there and most likely win in SPL. The 15" L7 will take 1000 Watts RMS I believe. Feeding it RMS from a high quality amp, or 800 Watts in the above statement wont "Kill that piece", it will make it push air like hell and make it very very loud. The new line of Kicker L7's is even stronger then before and they are very very good subs. Like Ive been saying to each his own, but dont say stupid ignorant shit about something you dont know...Kicker is a great product and it will do everything that it will say its going to do. RMS Power from a good amp will just make it sound better b/c of the amp, not kill that piece. And its very very far from cheap garbage.
Wat's the point of a 15" sub? seriously. Unless you're trying to blast some infra-sonic signals, I see no point putting in a sub that's as big as my wheels. A pair of 12s can pound just as hard and not be Boomy. It takes alot more power to drive sich a big sub. The only thing you're gonna achieve is the people checking out a sub that more than fills up your entire wheel well.
Ummm...do you have any idea what ur talking about? "Cheap Kicker Garbage"? "Gonna kill that piece"? Maybe you should try before you speak. Kicker is very far from cheap garbage. Its a very good SPL sub, the L7 isnt too far back from the W7 for a lower price. eD are also very good subs, but they are more into SQ than SPL...I have 2 Kicker L5's which are even lower model then the L7 and I have them in a big ported box powered with the 800.2, giving them 200 Watts under RMS a piece and Im not saying they are the best out there, but with my proffesional install I will put them up against MANY 12" subs out there and most likely win in SPL. The 15" L7 will take 1000 Watts RMS I believe. Feeding it RMS from a high quality amp, or 800 Watts in the above statement wont "Kill that piece", it will make it push air like hell and make it very very loud. The new line of Kicker L7's is even stronger then before and they are very very good subs. Like Ive been saying to each his own, but dont say stupid ignorant shit about something you dont know...Kicker is a great product and it will do everything that it will say its going to do. RMS Power from a good amp will just make it sound better b/c of the amp, not kill that piece. And its very very far from cheap garbage.
That is why Kicker is sold in Bestbuy, bvwahahahah... No SQ car ever used, uses or will use Kicker.
Wat's the point of a 15" sub? seriously. Unless you're trying to blast some infra-sonic signals, I see no point putting in a sub that's as big as my wheels. A pair of 12s can pound just as hard and not be Boomy. It takes alot more power to drive sich a big sub. The only thing you're gonna achieve is the people checking out a sub that more than fills up your entire wheel well.
Forget the myth that 15's are boomy and have bad SQ
You made the point on why to get a 15 in your post right here, it has almost as much displacement as 2 12" versions of the same series woofer. So why pay for 2 subs, bigger box, etc, when you can just get a single 15? Any good 15 will have just as much SQ as a 12, and they can hit lower (normally) due to a traditionally lower Fs.
Forget the myth that 15's are boomy and have bad SQ
You made the point on why to get a 15 in your post right here, it has almost as much displacement as 2 12" versions of the same series woofer. So why pay for 2 subs, bigger box, etc, when you can just get a single 15? Any good 15 will have just as much SQ as a 12, and they can hit lower (normally) due to a traditionally lower Fs.
I'd still rather 2 12's. Yes, the 15" can reach lower tones, but if were talking about sounds we can actually hear, I don't think it really matters. Are you planning on talking to a herd of elephants or play music?
I mean for a full, effective sound, you can't leave big gaps in the frequency responses of each speaker (It's hard for me to explain, but I hope you can see where I'm going here).
I mean, you need:
HIGH - MID-HIGH - MID - MID LOW - LOW
for effective sound
with a straight 15 in there, it's more like:
HIGH - MID-HIGH - MID --------Nothingness------- REALLY LOW - INFRASONIC
That is why Kicker is sold in Bestbuy, bvwahahahah... No SQ car ever used, uses or will use Kicker.
I have 2 12" L7s they are good imo. I have never seen kicker in a best buy and it is not on there website either make sure you check before you tell people other wise. By the way bestbuy has a clifford matrix alarm one of the best alarms you can get
I have 2 12" L7s they are good imo. I have never seen kicker in a best buy and it is not on there website either make sure you check before you tell people other wise. By the way bestbuy has a clifford matrix alarm one of the best alarms you can get
I seen plenty of kicker in my bestbuy here.
I am not talking about anything except CarAudio.. You should not get that at bestbuy, and if they sell it, its crap. Sony and Kicker crap..
Are you planning on talking to a herd of elephants or play music?
Hahahahahahahahaha Thats a great fucking quote...
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Originally Posted by ny98max
You should not get that at bestbuy, and if they sell it, its crap. Sony and Kicker crap..
And bro, "If they sell it at best buy, its crap...no matter what it is"??? Are u serioius? First of all nobody said you would get Kickers for SQ, I said they are SPL subs...But comparing Kicker to a Sony is like fucking rediculous...I havent seen Kicker in best buy and even if I did thats such a general and retarded statement. All it seems like is that u have no idea what ur talking about and you are jus sayin what u heard or what ur makin up in ur head cause the shit ur saying is jus dumb.
I'd still rather 2 12's. Yes, the 15" can reach lower tones, but if were talking about sounds we can actually hear, I don't think it really matters. Are you planning on talking to a herd of elephants or play music?
I mean for a full, effective sound, you can't leave big gaps in the frequency responses of each speaker (It's hard for me to explain, but I hope you can see where I'm going here).
I mean, you need:
HIGH - MID-HIGH - MID - MID LOW - LOW
for effective sound
with a straight 15 in there, it's more like:
HIGH - MID-HIGH - MID --------Nothingness------- REALLY LOW - INFRASONIC
At least this is what I see from it.
Just because it's bigger doesn't mean it can only play subsonic frequencies. Cmon man, based on that logic an 8" sub couldn't hit below 60Hz and there could be no such thing as a 15" full range speaker (rock concerts, HT, etc). A 15 can play the same frequencies as a 12 (as long as it's built to do so, which most of them are), it can just play all of them louder and can dig deeper. Not many 12's can hit 20-30Hz with much emphesis at all (even doubled up), this is where the 15 shines because it generally has no problem in these areas. And yes, 20-30Hz is very audible.
Just because it's bigger doesn't mean it can only play subsonic frequencies. Cmon man, based on that logic an 8" sub couldn't hit below 60Hz and there could be no such thing as a 15" full range speaker (rock concerts, HT, etc). A 15 can play the same frequencies as a 12 (as long as it's built to do so, which most of them are), it can just play all of them louder and can dig deeper. Not many 12's can hit 20-30Hz with much emphesis at all (even doubled up), this is where the 15 shines because it generally has no problem in these areas. And yes, 20-30Hz is very audible.
yea, it can hit lower frequencies than a 12, but every note the 12 plays is audible. I think what I'm trying to say is going from 6.5's to 15s is like having 1" tweeters, 12" subs, and nothing in between...
Where's the mid-bass? a 12 at least covers the mid-bass that the 6.5s can't produce. A 15" sub completely skips over that range and goes straight for the lowest frequencies possible
Thats a great fucking quote...