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Old Dec 9th, 2003, 03:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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what should i get?

ok, right now i'm driving a '96 Mitsubishi Mirage and the factory speakers are flat out blown. i'm stuck with this car until i can get my truck, and i don't want to listen to crappy speakers until then. the question is, what should i get? please take into consideration that i don't know a whole lot about this stuff so i really hope i don't make an ass of myself with this post

i think i'd like to get either 2 10's or one (maybe 2) 12's. and i will definitely want an amp and subs. i'm going for good sound, but i want some kickin bass too. i want to be heard

i also want to be able to move all of this over into my truck when i finally get it. it'll be either a '96 or '97 Nissan Hardbody.

what do you guys recommend?
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 05:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 06:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, to start off you are going to need to replace your speakers and pop in an amp for them. Whether you get rear speakers thats your choice, I have them but IMO they arent really necessary. You are going to want to get a nice set of component speakers for the front. Dont go cheap here, this is the heart of your sound. If you are going to buy rear speakers you should get 2, 3, or 4 way speakers for the rear if not then just get the components. After that you will need an amplifier. Look into Rockford Fosgate, Kicker, U.S. Amps or such decent well respected brands. Dont go cheap here either b/c this will power the heart of your car. Now saying you got decent components they should handle around 50WX2@4Ohms so you will want to get a 2 channel around 75WX2@4Ohms amplifier, and if you get rear speakers you will want to get a 75WX4@4Ohms amplifier for all around speakers.

Now as for the subwoofers here is the tricky part. What kind of bass do you want? Punchy or boomy...are you going for SQ (Sound Quality) or SPL (Sound Pressure Level)...what kind of music do you listen to...depending on what you are looking for will determine what sub you will want to get and what kind of box you will want to put it in...the amp will correspond with the subs. Fill us in more and we will tell u more.

Edit: Check out my system in my link on page 3 of my cardomain page...If you want loud as hell beat the shit out of ur subs rattle and rumble everything with not really good SQ then you can get my setup relatively cheap...Im sure SR20Demon will fill u in on more subs with better SQ that he likes soon. Depending on what u want and how much money u got will help make ur choice.
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hey it looks like I'm famous! hehe

Anyway, your post was a little confusing. You said you wanted some 10's or 12's, and you also said you would definately want an amp and subs. Well uh, 10's and 12's are subs, lol. But ignoring that, Russia is right, your front speakers are the heart of your system. You can get rear speakers if you like. Many people have them, many people don't, all a matter of preference. Personally, I don't like rear speakers, the pair of components that I have can get loud enough to hurt and easily fill up the entire car just as well as 4 can.

We could fill this entire thread up with suggestions of brands and models to check out, but everything depends on your preferences and budget. Just let us know your total budget and if you're looking for sound quality or just plain loud (or both) in your subs. And please be realistic, don't ask for great SQ and awesome SPL with a kickass headunit and 4 amazing speakers all with amps for under $500 or something, lol.
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 07:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well, i want:

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loud as hell beat the shit out of ur subs rattle and rumble everything
but with decent SQ. doesn't have to be great, but i want to be able to hear at least a little bit more than just bass

hmm, well i definitely am gonna go for good speakers for the front. i don't think i'll get rear speakers cuz i plan to transfer my system to my truck in what will hopefully be a matter of months. no need for rear speakers there

as for music taste, i'm into all kinds of rock, rap, anything with bass. so that leads into the bass i want: i want to be LOUD. it's gotta boom! a friend of mine had 2 12's in his S-10, it rattled the mirrors, and he got a ticket for excessive noise it was so loud and pounded so hard it was almost unbearable. that's what i want

as for the money, well i'm kinda poor. hell i work for Dairy Queen, what do ya expect? i'd like to keep this under $500 if i possible can, but if i have to i'll go as high as somewhere around $800. definitely not going to $1000 though. no way i could afford that!
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 07:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well that's a very low budget for what you want, but here's what I can do

15" L7 D2 - $200
Soundstream PIC1.900D - 900x1 @ 1ohm - $250
Soundstream RUB500-2 - 100x2 @ 4ohm - $165
Focal 165A - $165

Wiring and shipping will send you over the $800, and this doesn't even include a headunit, but it's the best I can come up with. Maybe someone knows of some comparable components that are cheaper, or some amps that can put out the power for cheaper, maybe a DEI or something.
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 09:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Ok well I got time on my hands so lets see what I can come up with.

15" Kicker L7...177$
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=18804

Kicker 800.2...250$
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=48598

Alpine SPR-176A Component Speakers 125$ (This pisses me the fuck off, I paid 180$ for them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=32819

Amp that will get the job done...60$
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=39738

I dunno man, that took 5 minutes with general rough estimates and thats w/o a head unit too...1000$ is a bad budget for *good* equipment...Either settle for not so good or take ur time, save some money and do it once and do it right...ur choice...Good luck
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Old Dec 11th, 2003, 11:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
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How much speace are you looking at for a box in a Nissan hardbody?
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Old Dec 12th, 2003, 08:23 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm not sure of your front speaker size, but TheZeb has a sale for CDT CL61a for 149.99 (amoung other models). I run the HD-642's and they are beautiful to listen to. I've installed the CL-61a in two cars and they are one of the best low cost comps I've ever heard. Elemental Designs Kx subs are fantastic SQ subs that have quite a bit of bump, but won't hurt your wallet. The 10's are $75 and the 12's are $85. Also, they need very little space, whether ported or sealed. The amps mentioned sound great for your needs. But just remember the price of all your wiring needs. Alot of times people forget to add the cost of wiring, blocks, fuses, terminals, etc. into their budget. Hope this helps some.
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well i'm looking at not a whole lot of space. my ex's truck barely had enough room to fit his 12 and box behind the seat, and that was with the seat moved as far forward as he could stand it. but the trunk of my car has tons of room.

hmm, is there any way i could get just the subs and amp and not replace the front speakers yet without destroying them more?
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You could just get the subs and amps IF you have a Headunit with a pair of preamps. That way you could power your speakers off the factory wiring and use the preamp for the amp and sub. Also, with a pair of preamps, you use one set for the sub and the other for your comps down the raod.
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I'm not sure of your front speaker size, but TheZeb has a sale for CDT CL61a for 149.99 (amoung other models). I run the HD-642's and they are beautiful to listen to. I've installed the CL-61a in two cars and they are one of the best low cost comps I've ever heard. Elemental Designs Kx subs are fantastic SQ subs that have quite a bit of bump, but won't hurt your wallet. The 10's are $75 and the 12's are $85. Also, they need very little space, whether ported or sealed. The amps mentioned sound great for your needs. But just remember the price of all your wiring needs. Alot of times people forget to add the cost of wiring, blocks, fuses, terminals, etc. into their budget. Hope this helps some.

kx's are good, but it doesn't look like they are what he wants. It appears he wants it to be very loud and doesn't really care about SQ, which is the complete opposite of all of eD's lines.
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Old Dec 12th, 2003, 04:45 PM   #13 (permalink)
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what he wants
ahem, she

anyways, i had an offer from one of my friends today for 2 subs (not sure of the size yet) for $50 each. he says they're brand new, never been taken out of the box. so i'm gonna check that out.

now, since i might be able to go with less for the subs, hook me up with an amp and the comps!
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ahem, she

anyways, i had an offer from one of my friends today for 2 subs (not sure of the size yet) for $50 each. he says they're brand new, never been taken out of the box. so i'm gonna check that out.

now, since i might be able to go with less for the subs, hook me up with an amp and the comps!
hehe, sorry
I doubt those subs are worth the price of the box they're still in, but I guess we'll wait to find out what they are. The amps and comps suggested in this thread will still work, and it might bring you back underbudget too with some cheap subs like that. We can't suggest a sub amp until we know what subs they are.
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Old Dec 12th, 2003, 09:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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well it looks like i'm right back at square one. the guy backed out on me on the subs so i'm back to the same old problem: present speakers are crap, need something better, want something good, can't afford much.
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