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Old Jun 20th, 2003, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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kickpanel idea

So our kickpanels (B14) really don't have that much room to mount a speaker.
A 6 1/2" takes up more space than comfortable.
But what bout a 3-4"?
Are these speakers really decent?
Would a 3-4" in the kick panel sound better than a 6 1/2" (which is more dynamic due to its size) in the door?
The 3-4" saves alot of room.
Although since I have components in the front I could just mount the mid/woofer in the kick panel and not the tweeter too...

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Old Jun 20th, 2003, 06:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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3 or 4 inch componant sound pretty good, but the six inch sound a lot richer and a deeper sound. The small speakers will give you a more crisp high toned sound.
So I would suggest doing what you said. Keep some mid drivers in the doors, and then build the kickpanels for 3 or 4's.
Its a bad thing about our cars, how the speakers are mounted so low in the door. Almost makes the sound sit on the floor. But mounting the speakers in the kick panels toward you, it will be a totally different sound.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2003, 09:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i'm going to make a "kickpanel" that is actually mounted on the door instead of in the floor.
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Old Jun 22nd, 2003, 10:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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this is prolly hijacking your thread, sorry if it does but i was thinking the other day "what if i put a pair of speakers beneath the front seats in a sentra, that way u have full surround system"

anyone have any input on this?
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Old Jun 22nd, 2003, 10:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So,
About the kickpanels:
You figure leave the 6 1/2" woofer in the door. Leave the separate tweeter in the door too.
As for the mini-kickpanel should I have a 3 inch component down there, a 3" two way, or just a 3" mid down there.
I figure I don't need another tweeter so I should just go with the 3" mid, and block out highs and extra lows.
Or just move my existing 6 1/2" woofer from the door to the kick altogether and leave the existing tweeter in the door.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 12:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i would go with the mid and tweet in the door and 3" mid in the kick, would save alotta room. and if ur worried about the bass of the 6.5 in the door jus deaden the door and problem solved.
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The door is deadened.
But I think I may go the 3" mid in the kick. Without any extra tweeters.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 01:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Like these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...=0&cc=01&avf=N
http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...=0&cc=01&avf=N

Incidentally, these are the only two that crutchfield sells without a tweeter.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 01:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I'm struggling with some of the same concerns in my car right now. I work for a car audio retailer, and have access to quite a few different things, and I think the best bet is to find a 3 way set with a 6.5" in the door, 4" and 1" tweeter in the kick panel. Next is probably a 5.25" and 1" in the kickpanel with or without a midbass in the door. Mounting a 3" in the kickpanel with our without the tweeter won't cut it in the majority of cases. They typically aren't designed to handle that much power and won't play very low to boot. Most of those are designed as drop in for cars with small openings and not really as a high performance speaker.

In my car, I'm probably going with a 3 way with a 6.5" in the doors.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 06:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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that set up with the mid and tweet in the kick would prolly be ideal
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 06:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well,
As some of you know I already have a tweeter in the door. Not in the sail panel where it completely drowns out any of the bass, but down by my knees aimed up at my ears so it is around 5 inches from the center of the woofer in the door. I wouldn't put a two way or component down in the kick because
1) I already have one, 2) it takes up too much room.

Anyway, does anyone have a schematic or diagram of a kickpanel design that would encorporate a 3 1/2" mid. Would this cover the OEM kick, require some cutting to it, or replace it altogether.
I prefer a design that replaces it altogether to maximize foot room.

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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 07:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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seth, theres a kid on cardomain who molded kickpanels for a B14, outta some fiberglass, they look sweet as hell, and he has a full write up on how to make them, ill look for it for ya
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 08:12 PM   #13 (permalink)
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here it is, i cant believe i found it
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=104940&page=2

not fully detailed, but i bet i could make them.... that could be the second series of products to come out of BS performance, after the eyebrows, custom kickpanels
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Old Jun 24th, 2003, 08:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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and custom trunk enclosures :

http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...=104940&page=3

the kid was somewhat of a moron making them, alpine makes their enclosures using the thicker bedding, 6 layers of glass, then a layer of dura-glass, die angle grinded down, and low spots filled with body filler
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Old Jun 25th, 2003, 10:29 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I know you want to save space, but putting a cheap 3.5" in the kickpanel instead of a quality 6.5" in the door doesn't make sense. Most 3.5" are designed for much different parameters and typically aren't designed for any kind of midbass or low bass. A pretty cheap 6.5" in the door will probably spank just about any 3.5" you can find.

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