My audio... *caution* I suck...

dry · Apr 26th, 2003, 11:25 PM

Here is my audio set up, I am looking for feedback, as I dont know ANYTHING about car audio... I'm just looking to get things as cheap as I can and have it sound decent... here goes:

Head unit:
Pioneer DEH-2300
Mosfet 50x4
(paid 60 dollars shipped)

Up Front:
Infinity 605cs
90 watt RMS component set
(Paid 60 dollars shipped)

Rear Speakers:
Infinity 652i
60 watt RMS 2 way speakers
(paid 55 dollars shipped)

to thus far I have paid 175 dollars for audio and I am now looking for a *decent* subwoofer and a *decent* amp. As you can see I am not looking for the best stuff here, I just want opinions.. I hear to stay with the same brand speakers... does this mean I should choose an infinity sub? I only want one 10" so what exactly should I be looking for in an amp and a sub... also should I amp my front speakers to get the 90 watts rms out of them that they can, milk them for what they are worth... or just use the 50 watt amp the HU comes with. All feedback is appreciated... -James

HuMMerMan · Apr 27th, 2003, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by DryBoy
also should I amp my front speakers to get the 90 watts rms out of them that they can, milk them for what they are worth... or just use the 50 watt amp the HU comes with.

The "50 watt" amp that comes with the HU is only about 22-23wrms. I would suggest putting at least 50wrms to those front components, maybe even 75wrms.

ImportCarTuner · Apr 27th, 2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by DryBoy
I hear to stay with the same brand speakers... does this mean I should choose an infinity sub?

If you're goning to go with Infinity subs, I'd suggest looking into the Kappa Perfect's. They're a bit on the pricey side but you might be able to find them cheap on eBay.

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Originally posted by DryBoy
I only want one 10" so what exactly should I be looking for in an amp and a sub

Make sure the RMS on the amp compliments the RMS on the subs. Having too much RMS a sub can handle will deteriorate the subs life and will eventually blow.

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Originally posted by DryBoy
should I amp my front speakers to get the 90 watts rms out of them

Definately amp the front speakers if you want the full potential of the speakers. 75 RMS x 2 amp should do you it well. If you decide to amp all four speakers, get a 50 RMS x 4 amp.

dry · Apr 27th, 2003, 04:34 PM

what about ohms... I know nothing so help me out... I see some amps are 25x4 at 4 ohm OR 50x4 at 2 ohm... I'm confused.

ImportCarTuner · Apr 27th, 2003, 06:20 PM

I believe all car speakers run at 4 ohms... so when looking for an amp for the speakers, look at the RMS for 4 ohms.

Chicago Tony · Apr 27th, 2003, 09:21 PM

The speakers you have now are pretty good. I have the same componets as you and they sound very good with some power. For a sub you can get a pair of Kicker Comp VRs for less than $150.00 and for an amp JBL 600.1 for less than 200.00. Will sound very good.

SuperSentra4203 · Apr 27th, 2003, 11:00 PM

The Kappa's are awsome. The headunit sucks, but it's still a Pioneer. For subs, go for the Infinity Perfect series (not called Kappa Perfect) IF you want an amp that is Infinity, you might be able to find some Kappa series. I had a Kappa 102A that I ran both my 6x9's and 6 1/4's for a while until I got my subs. I don't think Infinity make amps anymore, but I haven't been looking for a good amp in a while. You speakers are all 4 ohms. The component set should be run off of a sperate amp from your rear speakers. For best sound, run as close to the rated RMS as possible, without exceeding the peak by 20% unless you can keep them cool. For good subs at a cheap price, I had a set of 12" Kenwood's that had awsome SQ, but they do need a good 400 watts of RMS power to sound the best. My Kappa amp was only pushing 300 watts RMS and they hit extremely hard, and that was with one of Clarion's first CD headunits that didn't have amp preouts (I had to buy a peaker level converter).

Fonque · Apr 28th, 2003, 09:39 AM

man you all are throwing out some pricey responses, if he paid 175 for his headunit and 4 speakers i dont think he would be willing to spend 180 - 300 on a sub, like the kappa perfects go. If youwant cheap go to http://www.thezeb.com

they sell crap and they sell SQ competition grade stuff. but its all cheap check out their specials on subs.

RocFos HE punches going for 65 a piece, and some pioneer subs going for 40 a piece. Obviously this is not top of the line stuff, but i dont think top of the line is what you are looking for

SuperSentra4203 · Apr 28th, 2003, 09:49 AM

You want cheap, yet good shit, here is what may be best and readily available.

2 12" Kenwood subs
Cost about $120 pair

Pioneer os Kenwoos amp
Cost about $100-$200

Have a friend make a speaker box
Cost about $30

You cheap junk hitting as good as others who paid wads of cash
Priceless

dry · Apr 28th, 2003, 10:02 AM

thanks fonque... I am definately looking to go cheap, but good sounding... I'll probably get all my stuff second hand anyway, since thats the way it all is already... I dont know about running an amp to the components and an amp to the rear... and an amp to the subs... thats 3 amps, thats a lot of money I dont want to spend.

Fonque · Apr 28th, 2003, 11:34 AM

you only need one amp, althougha 6 channel amp is not cheap, at least ive never seen a cheep one. but 1 4 channel and 1 2 channal or mono amp can be had for pretty cheap

ImportCarTuner · Apr 28th, 2003, 11:56 AM

If you're looking for good and cheap subs, Crutchfield had a "two-fer" deal going on right now on these Infinity Reference subs... sounds like a great deal... http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...asp?i=1081220W.

McLaren F1 2003 · Apr 28th, 2003, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by SuperSentra4203
For subs, go for the Infinity Perfect series (not called Kappa Perfect)

dude, the series is called kappa perfect http://www.infinitysystems.com/carau...ry.asp?Cat=SUB

anyway, infinity is an awesome choice, great sound quality at all volume levels

SuperSentra4203 · Apr 28th, 2003, 05:20 PM

Don't buy the Infiniti Reference!! Buy the Kenwoods if you decide to get new subs. I have proven these subs to take an amazing beating.
As for the Kappa Perfect. I remember when they were first being developed, they were going to be ccalled Perfect Series. Thanks for the info tidbit man.

dry · Apr 28th, 2003, 10:40 PM

two for one is great but I only need 1 sub

plus those go on ebay for like 50 for one (and thats after shipping) well thats for the 10 inch and I want to save as much room in the trunk as possible. (and save as much room in the wallet too!)