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Old Jun 14th, 2004, 12:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
93blackSER
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the S13 has the problem of understeer, but not because of weight balance. it's more in the suspension. the front is not stiff enough compared to the back. a front sway bar would solve that problem. as far as the HachiRoku goes, it's shows you that power isnt what is needed to drift. you need to have a good suspension, and even more, you need to have skill. and what makes the Hachi such a better drifter is the live axle rear end. the live axle naturally creates oversteer. it is good for drifting, but not daily driving. whoever said the Hachi understeers should be run over by one.

as far as weight reduction: take out back seats, the spare tire and jack, remove all the plastic back there too, remove the tar sound deadening crap, move the battery to the back, carbonfiber hood, remove the AC, remove the little emissions crap. it all adds up. putting the battery in the back will change the front to rear distribution ratio by 1percent. if you started with a 48 to 52 ratio, you'll then have a 49 to 51 ratio. get it? good.

on a side note: drifting is not done with power, it is done with skill and suspension settings, and throttle modulation. during a drift you use a combination of counter-steer, braking, e-braking, and throttle modulation to create or maintain a drift. you can also use weight transfer to being a drift or link them together. anyways, based on how much power you have, you modulate the throttle. by modulating the throttle you are telling the car how much power to use. giving it too much will cause you to oversteer and spin out. too little and the drift ends. with an underpowered car such as the HachiRoku or the naturally aspirated 240sx, you are harder on the gas pedal when drifting. that is the only difference between drifting a 14hp car and a 500hp car.

ok, now i'm done educating you people. do some research and get some seat time if you actually want to learn this stuff. you need to know how your car reacts in certain conditions, which is something that no one else can tell you. figure out every aspect of your car and when to do what and you will be able to hold those long drifts. and stay off the streets.
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