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Not as much as other people like dho had shown on his web, the piping was about 1/4 inch short. That was my last PS product. From now on i am only going with HS headers. I thought I would get a good deal b/c i was hearin that they were like the gen 1 HS but much cheaper, i should have just saved up and bought the new HS. That is what i recommend now go with HS, the extra cash will be worth spending
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